1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Man shot outside of Wrigley Field

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Rockets34Legend, May 7, 2004.

  1. Rockets34Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    23,389
    Likes Received:
    21,342
    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1797122&partnersite=espn

    CHICAGO -- A 26-year-old man was gunned down in the street near Wrigley Field after watching the Cubs play on Thursday.


    Frank Hernandez was shot about 90 minutes after the Cubs beat the Diamondbacks 11-3.


    Authorities say the incident started when Hernandez was cut off by two men in a SUV as he was crossing an intersection near Wrigley at about 6 p.m.


    Police say Hernandez hit the SUV with a miniature baseball bat and then broke the souvenir over the driver's head when the driver got out of the vehicle. Police say that's when the SUV's passenger got out and shot Hernandez in the upper abdomen.


    Hernandez collapsed on the sidewalk. Paramedics performed CPR, but Hernandez was later pronounced dead at Illinois Masonic Medical Center.


    "He went to the Cubs game, and he was just waiting, got out and right there he got shot," a friend of the Hernandez family told the Chicago Sun-Times as he sat crying outside the hospital emergency room. "He told me, 'I'm gonna see the Cubs today. I'll go and see my buddies.'"


    According to the Sun-Times, two Chicago police officers who were parked in a squad car half a block away saw the fight break out and were watching in their rear-view mirror as Hernandez was shot.


    Witnesses told the newspaper that police took several men into custody almost immediately.


    Hernandez had attended the game with best friend Brad Wallace Jr.


    "From what I've heard, they were crossing the street," Margaret Wallace, Brad's mother, told the Sun-Times. "There was a fight behind them. My son got to the curb and turned around. He heard two pops and went to talk to Frankie, and he was on the ground."


    Chicago police sergeant Robert Cargie says two men remain in custody in connection with the shooting but no charges have been filed.
     
  2. Ender120

    Ender120 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2003
    Messages:
    1,774
    Likes Received:
    171
    You see people? This is why I never, ever trust anyone on the road. I learned from an early age that people are idiots, and that you never know who is carrying a gun on them, and it's a lesson that I've carried with me ever since.

    Someone cuts me off? I let them go. I cut someone off by accident? I let them drive next to me and swear all they want to, but I don't look at them. You can never trust people.

    There is absolutely no reason to take traffic incidents so personally, especially when your life could be at stake.
     
  3. LooneyToon

    LooneyToon Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2003
    Messages:
    351
    Likes Received:
    0
    Agreed... as Conan says. "Keep cool my babies!"
     
  4. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Messages:
    14,382
    Likes Received:
    13
    You forgot the part about the bat.
     
  5. Ender120

    Ender120 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2003
    Messages:
    1,774
    Likes Received:
    171
    Absolutely. Let's not forget that this man was the reason that he got shot.

    I'm assuming that after a night at Wrigley, this guy was more than a little intoxicated (they usually are), but there's no reason to 1.) Cause damage to the other guy's car because he "cut you off" or 2.) Actually assault the other guy when he gets out.

    He did a stupid thing, and paid for it. The only thing is, he doesn't have to pay for it, his family does. I feel sorry for the family related to this idiot who have to suffer and grieve now because he picked a fight with the wrong people.
     
  6. FrancisFan3

    FrancisFan3 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2001
    Messages:
    945
    Likes Received:
    28
    i thought it was Steve Bartman who got shot
     
  7. HAYJON02

    HAYJON02 Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    4,777
    Likes Received:
    278
    Eh, I'm just as worried about getting shot outside a baseball game as I am of terrorists. Not much.
     
  8. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,281
    Kind of scary because I got into a little argument as well after I watched a Cubs game...we were all quite drunk after having a lot of beers in the Bleachers. That's one of the problems with all these people carrying guns with them all the time...otherwise, it would just be a fistfight, now someone is dead.
     
  9. Gutter Snipe

    Gutter Snipe Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2001
    Messages:
    2,987
    Likes Received:
    65
    If it wasn't a gun, it would have been a knife. Those souvenir bats are serious whup-ass sticks, and could be considered a lethal weapon. From my perspective, this guy got a case of road rage, attacked someone's car and then attacked them with a small bat, and then his family acts surprised when someone raised the stakes?

    I'm not a violent man, but if you crack a bat over my head, I don't think I'm going to be seeing straight.

    By the way, I think that we have fewer fights in America because of guns. I love concealed handgun laws - I don't carry, but how does some punk know that I'm not?

    This discussion really belongs in D&D, but did you know that property crime (B&E, etc) is much higher in Canada where they have stricter gun control laws? I think it's directly related to the criminals being less afraid of being shot if they go into someone's house.
     
  10. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,281
    So you say property crime is higher...what about killings (murder, manslaughter, etc.)?
     
  11. Gutter Snipe

    Gutter Snipe Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2001
    Messages:
    2,987
    Likes Received:
    65
    Killings are higher in the U.S. - I'll admit that. But there are also a larger number of economicallly disadvantaged people in the US, and more gang and drug-related violence as well. I would expect those offences to be higher in the U.S..
     
  12. dskillz

    dskillz Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2002
    Messages:
    1,595
    Likes Received:
    5
    Funny that the police just sat there and watched the fight taking place and didn't try to stop it and only acted when the guy got shot. Aren't they supposed to try to stop the fight as well?
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now