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Make a trade for Eddie Jones

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by alley-oop, May 6, 2003.

  1. alley-oop

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    Eddie Jones a Rox

    To solve our D problem and give us a vet. with playoff exp., why not try and get Jones. We could do two things with him we could play him at the 3. Or we could play him at 2 and bring Cat in as our third gaurd.

    Miami wants to start over and has a great rok in Butler and a high draft pick. They want to get rid of some of their high salries. We could offer

    Houston trades: SF Glen Rice (9.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.1 apg in 24.7 minutes)
    PF Eddie Griffin (8.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 24.5 minutes)

    Houston receives: SG Eddie Jones (18.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 3.7 apg in 38.1 minutes)

    Change in team outlook: +0.9 ppg, -3.7 rpg, and +1.5 apg.

    Miami trades: SG Eddie Jones (18.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 3.7 apg in 38.1 minutes)

    Miami receives: SF Glen Rice (9.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.1 apg in 62 games)
    PF Eddie Griffin (8.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 77 games)

    Change in team outlook: -0.9 ppg, +3.7 rpg, and -1.5 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Due to Houston and Miami being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Houston and Miami had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement

    Miami gets a playoff vet who's contract falls off the books next year. They also get a young cheap, high draft pick, shot blocking pf with potiental. If they wanted more I would throw in our 2nd round pick.

    EJ and Cat are boys and would have great chemisrty. He would help the whole team play bettr D.

    I like this better than trying to get Barry or some mediocre point gaurd.

    It doesn't solve our pf needs but we could add some one from free agency because we would not resign Posey and would have the MLE.

    If you were the Rox would you do it?
     
  2. leebigez

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    I normally would answer this thread, but since its late and i have nothing else to do, i will. Eddie Jones makes 12mill per. He is in the 2nd or 3rd yr of a 6yr 12mil per season at the age of 31. Its tue he's a decent player and our defense isn't that bad. Eddie Jones has been known to disappear in big games and he either goes to the basket or shoots the 3,thats it. If Eddie Jones was making 6mill, which is about right for him, i would mind, but Eddie Jones making 2 times that amount isn't feasible. I wouldn't mind moving Mobley or Griffin, but I'll try moving Taylor and his overpaid contract first.
     
  3. a la rockets

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    I think u'd be giving up too much much for an overpaid,over-the-hill(and over-anything-u-want:D ) player.
    Now if u'd throw in Miami's first round pic,then I would consider it...



    ALA
     
  4. Relativist

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    I don't know much about Eddie Jones' game as of late, but this trade could be very reasonable. I mean Miami essentially trades away an older, but still good player with a big contract for cap relief and a young player with potential. We trade away a young player with potential for a 32-year-old-guy who led his team in scoring and shot 40% from the perimeter.

    If Eddie doesn't decline too drastically on us or is injured too much, we tremendously improve in the short-term. Probably the biggest issue I have with this trade is: does it solve most of our major problems/strengthen key positions? I'd say no, unless Eddie plays SF and shoulders some point forward duties. Because it kills all flexibility, I'd only do this If I were confident that EJ was the final piece in making us a championship contender

    Right or wrong, this sounds like the type of trade Rocks management may be looking to make this offseason.
     
  5. HotRocket

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    Bad title.
     
  6. leebigez

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    Well i guess it isn't too crazy since i've wanted SAR,Glover and maybe a future 1st rd pick for Cat,Taylor and Griffin. I always make my argument that the 3rd scorer on this team needs to be effecient, which SAR is. He's better than any player besides Ming we have on our frontline, is a good rebounder,good scorer and still only 26. Yes he's a max player, but for only 2 more yrs. He and Ming could work very,very well together,but thats just what kind of player I think would work for Hou and not the general consensus of everyone else.
     
  7. zzhiggins

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    I like Eddie Jones too ..and for about the same reasons..but not as much as you.
    The Heat would jump all over your proposed offer, because they have been trying to move EJ for some time. But Eddie Griffin is more valuable than EJ straight up.
    But Miami does like Rice and the fact his contract is ending,, and nobody likes EJs contract.. he will be imposssible to move if they wait too long.
    So give them their choice of Boki or Tmo and Rice for EJ. No More.
     
  8. Deuce

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    Eddie Jones is a decent player but is overpaid. If we brought in Jones then Mobley would have to go. NO WAY do I trade Jones for Griffin. Griffin is much more valuable in trade offers than that!
     
  9. Dr of Dunk

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    Changed title since Eddie jones isn't a "Rox".
     
  10. HeyDude

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    The player to go for here is Brian Grant :cool:
     
  11. xiki

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    His body is old, breaking down, but a very nice player. Who just happens to have a sick contract.

    Thanks but all things considered I'd keep Cat in place before taking on Jones' due.
     
  12. leebigez

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    This is the exact reason why i wouldn't take Brian Grant either. He's been injured alot in his career, is very avg,but once again Riley showed why he suck as a gm. Miami has 2 guys ,Jones and Grant who are making 12mill apeice and neither are top 10 in their position.
     
  13. verse

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    eddie jones of today is not nearly worth his contract. 12 million? are you nuts???


    at this point of jones' career, considering his sizeable contract, his market value is probably worth a decent player and an expiring contract. something along the lines of glen rice (9 million) and moochie of 2 years ago. or maybe a sign and trade of james posey & glen rice.


    in fact:


    Houston trades: SF Glen Rice (9.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.1 apg in 24.7 minutes)
    SF James Posey (10.8 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 2.2 apg in 30.3 minutes)
    Houston receives: SG Eddie Jones (18.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 3.7 apg in 38.1 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -1.3 ppg, -2.8 rpg, and +0.4 apg.

    Miami trades: SG Eddie Jones (18.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 3.7 apg in 38.1 minutes)
    Miami receives: SF Glen Rice (9.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.1 apg in 62 games)
    SF James Posey (10.8 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 2.2 apg in 83 games)
    Change in team outlook: +1.3 ppg, +2.8 rpg, and -0.4 apg.


    TRADE ACCEPTED
     
  14. No Worries

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    Verse, I would do that trade.
     
  15. JoeBarelyCares

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    Throw in Brian Grant, and let us dump some of our contracts, and I might do that deal.
     
  16. verse

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    is that in reference to my post?
     
  17. HeyDude

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    The whole point is, to get Brian Grant, we would still get to keep Cat and Eddie. His value would be something like Rice and Mo, or Rice and Cato. I would do either one. And he hasnt been injured the last 2 years. He doesnt shoot much, gets 10 and 10 every game, plays great D, avg. to above avg. post up game, and hell, most importantly, he will get Yao's back and make him tougher. Get him and sign Wesley Person. There u go. Banger and shooter. Offseason over.
     
  18. verse

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    if you give up rice and cato for grant you have no backup center.



    if you give up rice and motay for grant you have no low post scorer besides yao.
     
  19. HeyDude

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    who do u think played Center for Miami the last 2 years??
     
  20. JoeBarelyCares

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    Houston trades:

    SF Glen Rice (9.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.1 apg in 24.7 minutes)
    SG Cuttino Mobley (17.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 41.7 minutes)
    PG Moochie Norris (4.3 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 2.4 apg in 16.8 minutes)
    PF Eddie Griffin (8.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 24.5 minutes)

    Houston receives:
    SG Eddie Jones (18.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 3.7 apg in 38.1 minutes)
    PF Brian Grant (10.3 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 1.3 apg in 32.2 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -10.6 ppg, +0.4 rpg, and -2.5 apg.

    Miami trades:
    SG Eddie Jones (18.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 3.7 apg in 38.1 minutes)
    PF Brian Grant (10.3 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 1.3 apg in 32.2 minutes)

    Miami receives:
    SF Glen Rice (9.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.1 apg in 62 games)
    SG Cuttino Mobley (17.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 73 games)
    PG Moochie Norris (4.3 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 2.4 apg in 82 games)
    PF Eddie Griffin (8.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 77 games)
    Change in team outlook: +10.6 ppg, -0.4 rpg, and +2.5 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED
     

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