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[lvsun]Rafer is solid, but the Lakers are too tough

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  1. tinman

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    http://lasvegassun.com/blogs/shark-bytes/2009/jun/03/rafer-solid-lakers-are-too-tough/
    Rafer is solid, but the Lakers are too tough

    By Jerry Tarkanian · June 3, 2009 · 7:23 PM

    With the NBA Finals starting Thursday, I couldn’t be happier for Orlando Magic guard Rafer Alston, who played for me at Fresno State.

    Coming out of high school in New York City, he was way in the shadows of Stephon Marbury. Rafer wasn’t a good student in high school, so he really didn’t have that big a name.

    He went to Ventura College, a juco in California, and my son George was coaching at Chaffee College about 40 miles outside of Los Angeles.

    So in the state tournament, Chaffee has to play at Ventura. I went up with George’s team and didn’t even know who Rafer was. I sat in the stands and watched that game, and Rafer was really good.

    Ventura knocked Chaffee out of the state tournament.

    After the game, Rafer came up to me and introduced himself, and we started talking. I wasn’t coaching at the time. He didn’t go back to Ventura and I wondered what had happened to him. He might not have ben eligible.

    Then I took the Fresno State job and my assistant, Johnny Welch, and I flew back to New York to watch Rafer play in that famous summer league at Rucker Park.

    We went to the game and it was incredible. Richie Adams and Lloyd Daniels were there. It was great. I talked with both of them, but I was shocked at how old Richie looked.

    Rafer played so well we recruited him. We got him to go to Fresno City College for one year, and he played for us for one season. He averaged 11 points and more than 7 assists.

    He only shot 40 percent from the field, but he has always worked on improving his shot. Milwaukee drafted him and he bounced around in the minor leagues a bit, and he played for Miami and Houston.

    What a great ballhandler! They nicknamed him “Skip to my Lou” in New York and he was a legend. He was always the first in the gym and the last to leave, and he was always working on that shot.

    I’m happy to see that it’s paid off. I like him a lot. He’s a good guy and very competitive. He plays intense and he’s running the show in Orlando, making good plays and taking the open shot.

    But he’s not forcing anything. He’s come a long way. When he went to Houston, I spent four days with the Rockets at their preseason camp. Their top assistant had been my assistant at San Antonio.

    I spent a lot of time with Rafer. He did a great job in Houston and played well in Miami before that, but he’s doing an even better job in Orlando.

    In Miami, Stan Van Gundy was an assistant coach. When Rafer went to Houston he played for Stan’s brother Jeff. Then Orlando lost Jameer Nelson, and Stan remembered Rafer. Jeff highly recommended him.

    I love Rafer’s interviews. He knows basketball. He’s a junkie. He loves the game. But the Lakers are so good, I have to take Los Angeles in six games in the Finals.

    I felt Denver could test the Lakers, but the Lakers played so well those last two games. They have so much talent. They can shove it in overdrive whenever they want.

    I do like Orlando. Of course, they have Rafer. And Dwight Howard is getting better every day. The Magic played so well against Cleveland, but the Lakers have so damn much talent.

    By far, the Lakers have the most talent in the league.

    A lot will depend on what Dwight Howard can do. I do love that Mickael Pietrus guy. He’s a great defender. If he can slow down Kobe (Bryant) just a little bit, Orlando would have a shot.

    Stan’s done a nice job and he thoroughly outcoached Cleveland boss Mike Brown, even though the Cavaliers had the home-court advantage.

    I was shocked the Celtics took the Magic to seven games. That surprised me. I didn’t like that Celtics team at all without Kevin Garnett. I thought Paul Pierce was a lot slower than he was a year ago. And Ray Allen had a great series, then a bad series.

    With the Lakers and Magic, and especially Rafer, I am really looking forward to the Finals. Have fun watching the games.
     
  2. redao

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    Lakers are anything but tough. Rafer will torch them like AB did. no doubt.
     
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    LOL lakers and "tough" should never be used in the same sentence. They seem to have the largest vaginas around
     
  4. Dave_78

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    If the Lakers had an average NBA PG they would have run through the West with ease. Fisher is so bad it's not even funny and Farmar can't run a team is not consistent at all. Sadly for the Lakers, Shannon Brown is the team's best PG.
     
  5. thacabbage

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    :confused:

    1. in what way would being a good student in high school in any way impact having a name? the only relevance of actual academics are SAT scores which these guys usually have someone take for them anyway, and even then, that still doesn't effect your status... :confused:

    2. how did rafer alston not have that big a name? he was practically a legend before reaching puberty.

    3. him and marbury were at about the same level. there's a documentary where they are sitting on the bench and the coach asks who the hell those two young kids are and the other guy replies 'those are the two best young point guards in NYC.'
     
  6. vinsensual

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    I assume the word tough was used here as a degree of dificulty rather than a synonym for manly.

    Lakers in 6, gosh what a bold prediction. Just as Nelson played a big part in Magic victories, if Rafer from the Cavs series shows up, the Magic will be winning their first Finals match tonight.
     
  7. MayoRocket

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    Am I the only one surprised that Tarkanian writes articles?
     
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    I like how the author put Bryant in parentheses.

    As if there's anyone else in the league named Kobe?
     
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    What a terrible writer. I felt like I was reading a fifth grader's work.
     
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    great evaluation for Rafer. I think he could help Rockets on court more than KL in next couple of years unless KL was traded for a better player.
     
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    Wow... this article was terribly written.
     
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    [rquoter]Rafer played so well we recruited him. We got him to go to Fresno City College for one year, and he played for us for one season. He averaged 11 points and more than 7 assists.

    He only shot 40 percent from the field, but he has always worked on improving his shot.[/rquoter]

    So he actually used to shoot better.
     
  13. Rocket86

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    :rolleyes: :D
     
  14. tofu--

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    ...LOL, why are they even picking on Rafer at all?
     
  15. BrooksBall

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    I trust Morey as well as my own eyes.

    Kyle Lowry > Rafer Alston

    He was better than him this season. He'll only get better in coming seasons while Rafer's mediocre game at best stays the same and possibly declines as he gets older.
     
  16. emjohn

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    I defended Rafer whenever the hatred here got over the top (often), but I feel we're much better off after watching Lowry for the last couple of months.

    Lowry and Brooks combine to make $3M next year, much less than Rafer alone. Lowry's weak spot (outside shooting) is the same as Rafer's, but he's far better at finishing at the rim (Rafer's most frustrating failing). Plus, he's fine splitting time with Brooks, while Rafer is openly pouting about losing time to Jameer Nelson in the Finals.

    We aren't going to intimidate the league at the point, but we're a step up from where we were.
     
  17. Rocket86

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    With Jameer back, Rafer seems lost or out of sync. His shots are not falling for him and the Lakers are not the reason.
     

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