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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by giddyup, Oct 9, 2010.

  1. giddyup

    giddyup Member

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    16 Minutes...

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  2. Dairy Ashford

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    Put my hand on the mouse at "Australian Parliament," hovered it over the pause button at "politically correct," clicked it at Yeshua Bin Josef.

    If there was anything in there about condoms or sex education, let me know.
     
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    only watched about 5 minutes, but just another reason I think planned parenthood is the worst organization on the planet. They are more monstrous than Al Qaeda.
     
  4. Dairy Ashford

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    Which is ironic, because forced pregancies do more damage than both of them, combined.
     
  5. Pole

    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

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    I've pretty much been pro choice most of my life.......with reservations though. I see both sides of the argument, and although I would always try to talk someone close to me out of having one, I don't like the idea of back alley abortions, and I'm not crazy about people raising kids they didn't want in the first place. That being said, I never took much stock in the pro-choice argument of "a woman should be able to decide what she wants to do with her body."

    This video swung me to the other side though. (how do ya like them apples, Giddyup?). Not because of anything to do with Jesus or God........but because I had no idea that live babies born during a late term abortion were usually killed on the delivery table. How is that not murder? Hell, I didn't even know about the legislation to protect these living babies..............legisation that came about in this century!
     
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  6. Landlord Landry

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    so...

    ending the life of a defenseless child is the obvious alternative. brilliant.
     
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  7. Invisible Fan

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    I think abortions are a vile consequence to our culture's predisposition to judge and intrude. It's a combination of everything. Our puritanical roots that abandons the flawed and corrupted, the incessant drive for money through results and progress, the subsequent entitlement to pursue individual satisfaction because of the hard work to get that money, and the inclination to shrug of responsibility and pass the buck.

    I'm pro-choice mainly because criminalizing abortion happened in our past with disastrous results. The social pressures we heap on each other will drive people to desperate lengths. I don't have a problem with early term abortion within 4 months. Mistakes happen. But late term abortions are past that ambiguous point of innocent mistake and into something more emotionally motivated, something more selfish.

    Of course, I'm not a woman and I'll never face the dilemma of holding out 3+ more months for adoption or its consequences. All I can do is not judge if I ever met a woman who had enough trust to tell me that she gave away a kid and extend some semblance of understanding to the issue. People have different pasts. It sometimes feels like a human auction when finding the "perfect mate". Superficial and petty stuff like that that we all do that snowballs into the harshest of judgments onto other people. It's why secrets are furiously kept, and the answers to hide them come about.


    P.S. I think her speech's delivery sounds very "Churchy". And I don't mean her mentions of God and Jesus.
     
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  8. DonnyMost

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    lol, abortion.
     
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  9. Ottomaton

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    You've tried to force feed us this pap a million times before.

    Unless you are going senile, you already know how a legitimate discussion will end. So logically, I'd have to say you really don't want any feedback. You certainly aren't going to change your mind and neither is anybody else.

    [rquoter]
    "I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it."


    -Mark Twain

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  10. giddyup

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    Watch it again. That's an order. ;)
     
  11. giddyup

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    I guess if she had survived some other attack on her life she'd find a lot more sympathy and encouragement. :(

    ... but some call it "pap" and LOL it... :eek:
     
  12. thadeus

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    I've changed my mind and found Jesus and from now on I will vote Republican!
     
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  13. giddyup

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    That's not necessary; I voted for Obama and still searching for Jesus. Neither of those "qualifications" is a requirement to have compassion for innocent, unborn life.
     
  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    It is a personal choice, basically nobody else's business.

    DD
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Somebody needs to speak for the unborn.
     
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    I don't see a good rationale for late term abortions apart from the welfare of the mother.

    That being said, abortion opponents are still going about this the wrong way, as usual.
     
  19. finalsbound

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    ^^clinton's quote, better than illegal and dangerous. back alley abortions have no place in an advanced, civilized society.

    contraceptive education, that's where we will decrease the # of abortions.

    i was a "survivor" myself, i don't know my biological father, my mom only knew him for a few weeks and could've easily "taken care of it." i know however that you can't purely use emotion in this argument; the fact is, greater education WILL work in creating less unplanned pregnancies. and that is the measure of success with this issue--tackling the root problem--not turning scared, unequipped mothers into criminals.

    education, education, education.
     
  20. rhadamanthus

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    That and a system that enables struggling parent(s) to find help and support raising their children.

    I would also exceed your calls for education and argue in favor of mandatory contraception.
     

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