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Looking back on the Thomas for Posey trade!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Zacatecas, Aug 26, 2003.

  1. Zacatecas

    Zacatecas Member

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    What did it give us? There are no positives for next year from that transaction.

    Thomas was a horse. In retrospect he was the best option at the Power Forward last year. I am of the opinion that had he stayed with the Rockets, this team would have made the playoffs.

    It sucks that when you think about it, Thomas was truly traded in order to get Griffin more playing time.

    So it's funny that another poster said that Griffin has cost us 3 number 1 picks and Kenny Thomas!!!! Wow, Griffin has been expensive.

    Right now, I'd start Thomas over Griffin. Posey wasn't good enough to warrant HALF the salary of Thomas.
     
  2. codell

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    That and the fact that Mo was virtually untradeable at the time.

    I don't know who said it, but someone stated that they felt that if KT was with us the whole season, we would have been in the playoffs. Its hard to disagree.
     
  3. Roc Paint

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    I say we rehash the Francis deal again.

    Go Rockets!! :)
     
  4. ragingFire

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    How about the trade that sent Moses to Phily for Caldwell Jones and a 1st round pick? :( :)
     
  5. Roc Paint

    Roc Paint Member

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    O.k. let's talk ping pong balls here. Some of you guys need to clean your loop. :)
     
  6. Zacatecas

    Zacatecas Member

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    Hey who doesn't want to have his cake and eat it too!!!
     
  7. SaVeThEpIgS88

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    I never liked KT... im glad we didnt keep him
    He probably would of demanded a ridiculous contracts... i would of said no.. and i dont think he would of got us to the playoffs..
     
  8. tycoonchip

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    I liked the trade for Kt in that we got Posey. What bothers me is that we didn't keep Posey. With Pike I think it would have made Mobley more expendable. We could have trade moochie and mobes for a better back up point and if not some cash another back up at the 4 or 5.
     
  9. SaVeThEpIgS88

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    I dont think we would of kept Kenny either... so we would of got screwed either way...
     
  10. rockets-#1

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    Exactly... we had a better chance of resigning Posey than we did KT - we wouldn't have resigned him, so stop being bitter and asking to take looks back.
     
  11. CriscoKidd

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    It would have been a decent trade had West not stepped in and overpaid for Posey.

    But as it stands it's pretty sucky because it cost us a year in the playoffs imo.

    KT > Posey
     
  12. Dallas Rocket

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    The real question is "would we have kept KT at the price Philadelphia paid?" IMHO, the answer is no.

    Moreover KT is a tweener and not the PF solution nor SF solution we needed. Don't write EG off quite yet...........I think you'll see a different player under JVG. I agreed with the trade then and won't second guess it. Posey was good, but, again, not at 6$ m/year. Sometimes you get addition by subtraction, and that's the way I think it will play out over the next couple of years with MoT and EG plus our SF's.

    D R
     
  13. SaVeThEpIgS88

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    HAHAHA... KT would of never got us to the playoffs... He just wasnt suitable for this team... His gamestyle just didnt fit the rockets.. You are saying IN YOUR OPINION that KT would of brought us to the playoffs... Why dont we just keep moochie hoping he will be the star of the future and the savior of the rockets franchise... IN MY OPINION.. :eek:
     
  14. Roc Paint

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    Hey, can I get a glass of spilt milk to go along with my cake. ;)
     
  15. CriscoKidd

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    are you trying to make a point?

    good one.
     
  16. HeyDude

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    This is the way i look at it:

    W/ KT we would have made the playoffs.
    We would not have resigned him still.

    W/ Posey, the thinking was we would still make the playoffs and hopefully resign him longterm and improve the 3, which was a bigger hole at the time than the 4.

    Unfortunately we didnt resign Pose, so it basically it basically set us back a year as far as the playoffs....:(
     
  17. Puedlfor

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    How would Thomas have gotten us into the playoffs?
     
  18. tycoonchip

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    Actually i wouldn't look at it as just kt>posey. I think it shoudl be looked as posey > hawkins or posey > rice. But was MoT> KT or KT> MoT. We wanted to give EG more playing time but what would have been the better option at the 4? EG starting and MoT off the bench or EG starting and kt off the bench or heck KT and MoT off the bench?
     
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  19. heypartner

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    It is more about Eddie screwed our chances.
     
  20. Jebus

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    Kenny Thomas (post trade):

    30.5 mpg
    48% FG
    10.2 PPG
    8.5 RPG
    0.5 bpg

    Eddie Griffin:

    24.5 mpg
    40% FG
    8.6 ppg
    6.0 rpg
    1.4 bpg

    not too different, really.

    If Eddie was playing the same minutes as Kenny, he would have had pretty much the same numbers. Except he would have had more than 3 times the blocks Kenny did.

    We would not have re-signed Kenny anyway, the writing was on the wall. Why not try and get a piece that fit a little better? (and that we would have retained, had West not overpaid for him).

    trading KT did not cost us the playoffs. lack of heart and execution (blatant at times- especially against teams we SHOULD have beaten) is what cost us the playoffs.
     

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