1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Long-winded Rant] South Africa: An Omen For America?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Cohete Rojo, Jul 26, 2018.

  1. Cohete Rojo

    Cohete Rojo Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2009
    Messages:
    10,344
    Likes Received:
    1,203
    Farming in South Africa is a very dangerous occupation -- the most dangerous in South Africa -- and perhaps one of the most dangerous in the world. Many of these South African farmers, known as Boers, have been and are being targeted for one reason: skin color.

    South Africa has been a very violent country for decades, but now, for the Boers, it has escalated to a level never seen before.

    In March 2018, South Africa's leading political party, the African National Congress (ANC), voted on a motion that makes land confiscation without compensation a very real possibility - something that could happen any moment.

    Two years ago, a fomer member of the ANC and now leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF), Julius Malema, stated that there would be no "slaughtering of white people, at least for now".

    Malema received 6.5% of the popular vote in South Africa's 2014 presidential election - only 16% behind the second place candidate. He has also called on his followers to seize white-owned land.

    The situation has become so life-threatening that nearly 15,000 Boers have seriously contemplated a mass migration to southern Russia. You know it's bad when people have no place to turn but Russia.

    If you want a diverse point of view of South Africa -- what has happened since apartheid and what is happening now -- watch this gentleman's YouTube video about his childhood and early adulthood in South Africa.

    In his own words, if he had not moved to China, he may very well have become another victim of racial violence in South Africa. Yeah, you know its really bad when you have to seek refuge in Russia or go to China to save yourself from being murdered. It's that bad.

    Unemployment is high in South Africa, and for the past several years the GDP per capita PPP has been declining. To put that in perspective, places like Hungary and Poland, with declining populations, have experienced rising GDP per capita PPP. South Africa's population is growing.

    It is a powder-keg. Hillary Clinton during her campaign stated that white people need to "recognize their privilege". She may be the first mainstream politician to launch such racist attacks, but she likely won't be the next.

    We, the members of the ClutchFans community, have seen this same hateful rhetoric used here:(. We need to do something about it before it leads to something much worse. We need to end it. We need to nip it in the bud.

    See also:

    China SAVED my Life!


    China vs. South Africa


    Is there a future for White Afrikaners? - BBC Our World


    The Coming Civil War In South Africa
     
  2. superfob

    superfob Mommy WOW! I'm a Big Kid now.

    Joined:
    May 5, 2006
    Messages:
    2,087
    Likes Received:
    1,393
    Confused on the parallels:

    South Africa - Black African 80.2%, White 8.4%, colored(mixed) 8.8%, Indian/Asian 2.5%
    United States - White 62.0%, Hispanic or Latino 17.3%, Black 12.6%, American Indian and Alaska Native 0.8%, Asian 5.2%

    So your fear is that the persecuted minority group will take power and attack the majority.
    Where in South Africa, the persecuted majority group took power.

    South Africa has more in common with Iraq after we destabilized it than it does with the USA.
     
    krnxsnoopy, Ottomaton, sammy and 3 others like this.
  3. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Messages:
    25,725
    Likes Received:
    22,484
    Throwing in Hillary Clinton and conflating White Privilege in America to the disturbing and complicated race relations of South Africa is a very bad way to setup any type of constructive dialog on race.... to say the least.

    That being said, until a few years ago I never really knew that many people from South Africa well enough to understand how truly bad it is there. A neighbor of ours is from South Africa, and on the surface, you'd think they are the nicest people in the world.. until something comes up about immigration & race. Holy crap.... that's a xenophobe if I've ever known one, and I've known a lot living here in Texas, but their history there really does setup an unfortunate tension between races that will continue to last for generations.

    *We absolutely have White Privilege here in the United States. That's just not debatable unless you don't understand what the term really means. That doesn't mean I'm ashamed to be Caucasian, or that I owe anything to anyone. Just that I need to be cognizant of how good we have it here IN THE US, and how there are injustices (some very seen as very small or not seen at all) that contribute to injustice in our country that needs to be rectified over time. Sometimes its as terrible as getting shot at by the police for next to nothing, and sometimes its as subtle as the tugging her child closer to her when she walks next to a black man in the mall. I'm confident that if I get pulled over today by a police officer for running a stop light, I'm not going to get shot by him. Yes.... that's a PRIVILEGE if there ever was one.

    Back to SA (Again... a whole other conversation), yes the Apartheid back in the 1940's gave White's socio-economic & political power, but the White Privilege there with the white minority is completely different circumstances than the white MAJORITY here in the US for the past 200+ years.

    If you are trying to use SA as an example to make a case that White in the US are under seige, try again. That's a really really poor analogy and if you want to attempt at glazing over the abhorrent Apartheid segregation movement of the 20th century, that is setting a very disjointed argument.
     
    superfob likes this.
  4. Rashmon

    Rashmon Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2000
    Messages:
    21,201
    Likes Received:
    18,206
    Sounds like some very fine people on both sides.
     
  5. robbie380

    robbie380 ლ(▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿ლ)
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2002
    Messages:
    23,975
    Likes Received:
    11,129
    How in the world does this even slightly compare to America lol
     
  6. conquistador#11

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    39,158
    Likes Received:
    28,300
    the only thing that would be scarier for the op is if those blacks in south africa spoke spanish.
     
  7. Rashmon

    Rashmon Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2000
    Messages:
    21,201
    Likes Received:
    18,206
    And were Native Americans.
     
    xtruroyaltyx, Deckard and KingCheetah like this.
  8. robbie380

    robbie380 ლ(▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿ლ)
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2002
    Messages:
    23,975
    Likes Received:
    11,129
    They are learning Chinese now. Scary!

     
    conquistador#11 likes this.
  9. conquistador#11

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    39,158
    Likes Received:
    28,300
    that was pretty cool.
     
  10. Exiled

    Exiled Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2013
    Messages:
    5,140
    Likes Received:
    1,278
    Stine seeds company is the answer
     
    Nook likes this.
  11. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

    Joined:
    May 15, 2000
    Messages:
    28,028
    Likes Received:
    13,051
    Oh Jesus. #AnotherCoheteThread

    Eagerly awaiting the White Genociders to show up.
     
  12. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    59,079
    Likes Received:
    52,748
    #BeLikeCohete
     
    Invisible Fan likes this.
  13. No Worries

    No Worries Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1999
    Messages:
    32,848
    Likes Received:
    20,633
    word on the street is that they’re willing to learn.
     
  14. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    100,714
    Likes Received:
    102,941
    Now *that's* funny.
     
  15. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    59,889
    Likes Received:
    132,791
    Pretty sure OP would have had the corner office next to Himmler 80 years ago.
     
    justtxyank, Deckard and Major like this.
  16. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    35,055
    Likes Received:
    15,229
    You might have gotten confused with multiple tabs open and accidentally made this thread here instead of Stormfront. Take a look.
     
    Joshfast, justtxyank, Deckard and 2 others like this.
  17. xtruroyaltyx

    xtruroyaltyx Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2011
    Messages:
    12,556
    Likes Received:
    16,134
    So many racists.
     
    Deckard likes this.
  18. Ottomaton

    Ottomaton Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2000
    Messages:
    19,192
    Likes Received:
    15,350
    Just for clarification:

    A Boer is a South African of Dutch descent, farmer or not. South Africans of English descent are not Boers, even if they own a farm.
     
  19. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    100,714
    Likes Received:
    102,941
    All Boers are Afrikaners, but not all Afrikaners are Boers.
     
  20. percicles

    percicles Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2002
    Messages:
    11,987
    Likes Received:
    4,438
    Cleverly disguised anti Nigerian immigration post.
     
    xtruroyaltyx likes this.

Share This Page