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Linda Rondstadt

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MadMax, Jul 19, 2004.

  1. MadMax

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    1. This is funny, simply because it's hard to imagine people paying to see Linda Rondstadt.

    2. When did this become so common onstage?? When did political diatribes on stage from such mainstream celebrities become such a frequent event? I mean...we all know that celebrities have endorsed candidates before...Sinatra did endorsement ads for JFK, for example. But now, they go into these long extended winded sessions...and no matter your poliltics, if you've paid to see a show, aren't you kinda like, "geez...save it for the editorial page??"


    http://www.lasvegassun.com/drudged/517195568.html
    Aladdin expels Ronstadt after political remarks
    By Jerry Fink
    LAS VEGAS SUN

    Aladdin President Bill Timmins ordered security guards to escort pop diva Linda Ronstadt off the property following a concert Saturday night during which she expressed support for controversial documentary filmmaker Michael Moore.

    Timmins, who was among the almost 5,000 fans in the audience at the Aladdin Theatre for the Performing Arts, had Ronstadt escorted to her tour bus and her belongings from her hotel room sent to her. Timmins also sent word to Ronstadt that she was no longer welcome at the property for future performances, according Aladdin spokeswoman Tyri Squyres.

    How much weight that carries is debatable, since the bankrupt Aladdin is in the process of being sold to a group headed by Planet Hollywood International Inc. Chairman and Chief Executive Robert Earl.

    Near the close of her performance, Ronstadt dedicated the Eagles hit "Desperado" to Moore, producer of "Fahrenheit 9/11," and the room erupted into equal parts boos and cheers.

    She said Moore "is someone who cares about this country deeply and is trying to help."

    Ronstadt has been making the dedication at each of her engagements since she began a national tour earlier this summer, but it has never sparked such a reaction.

    Hundreds of angry fans streamed from the theater as Ronstadt sang. Some of them reportedly defaced posters of her in the lobby, writing comments and tossing drinks on her pictures.

    Timmins told Las Vegas Sun gossip columnist Timothy McDarrah: "We live in a city where people come from all over the world to be entertained. We hired Ms. Ronstadt as an entertainer, not as a political activist.

    "Whether you are politically on the left or on the right is not the point. She went up in front of the stage and just let it out. This was not the correct forum for that."

    Timmins said she was wrong to bring her politics to the stage.

    "Our first and only priority is the enjoyment of our customers," he said. "I made the decision to ask Miss Ronstadt to leave the hotel. A situation like that can easily turn ugly and I didn't want anything more to come out of it. There were a lot of angry people there after she started talking.

    "If she wants to talk about her views to a newspaper or in a magazine article, she is free to do so. But in a stage in front of four and a half thousand people is not the place for it."

    Squyres said half the audience walked out, an estimate that might have been high. But the number was substantial, nevertheless.

    "The hotel's policy is that we hired her to entertain guests, not to express her political views," Squyres said.

    According to Squyres, the 58-year-old singer did not create a scene as she was escorted out of the hotel and to her tour bus.

    "She wasn't happy, but she was cooperative," Squyres said.

    Attempts to reach Ronstadt and her manager were unsuccessful Sunday and this morning.

    Squyres said a number of ticket holders had asked for their money back after an article appeared in a local newspaper last week quoting her making disparaging remarks about Las Vegas.

    "She said Vegas isn't the best place to perform anyway," Squyres said.

    Other fans asked for their money back shortly after the Saturday night show got underway, when Ronstadt informed the audience that ads publicizing the concert were incorrect. The advertisements called it her "Greatest Hits Tour."

    Ronstadt started the evening with her 1983 hit "What's New?" and then set her fans straight about what they might expect during the concert.

    "In case you are wondering what I'm going to do," she said, "Driving into town I saw this big billboard up there with my picture on it saying 'The Greatest Hits Tour.'

    "That was news to us. We didn't know it was 'The Greatest Hits Tour.' "

    Squyres said Ronstadt was wrong.

    "Her management gave us the information and approved the ad," she said.

    According to Squyres, Ronstadt lopped off about 20 minutes from the show, walking away from an encore portion of the concert, which I attended as the reviewer for the Sun.

    The incident capped a generally lackluster, unenthusiastic performance by one of the top singers of the '70s and '80s.

    The Baltimore Symphony Orchestra opened the concert. The highlight of the 30-minute segment was a rendition of George Gershwin's "Rhapsody in Blue," featuring pianist Terrance Wilson.

    Ronstadt began with several songs from the 1920s, '30s and '40s she and arranger Nelson Riddle recorded, among them "Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered," "Someone to Watch Over Me" and "Straighten Up and Fly Right."

    She performed Cole Porter's "Get Out of Town," Frank Loesser's "Never Will I Marry" and jazz great Billy Strayhorn's "Lush Life."

    And then she gave fans some of what they came for, several of her hits from the '70s and '80s, including "Just One Look" (1979), "Ooh Baby, Baby" (1978) and "Somewhere Out There" (1987).

    Although she still has that powerful, distinctive voice, Ronstadt was merely going through the motions.

    The only song she had trouble with was "Blue Bayou." She stumbled over the lyrics, seemed to gasp for breath at one point and ended the song in Spanish, screaming the words rather than singing them.

    Her performance was uninspired and generally flat. She lacked stage presence, doing little more than sleepwalk from song to song.

    The fiasco at the end was the most exciting part of the show.
     
  2. Rocketman95

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    It doesn't say anywhere that she gave a long-winded diatribe, just that she dedicated a song to him.

    I know one casino that's not getting my money next weekend...
     
  3. El_Conquistador

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    She deserved what she got. Audiences come to listen to the performance, not the performer's divisive opinions on politics. I love it how the liberals defend stuff like this, but then are outraged the second any politician talks about religion.
     
  4. rrj_gamz

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    kinda funny...if she just dedicated the song, then I'd boo too...

    anyway, it didn't say she did a long tirade, but to each his own...

    BTW, I loved her in the 70's...
     
  5. Rocketman95

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    Wonder if they'd let me sit down at a blackjack table if I had a Kerry shirt on? Would they ask me to turn it inside out? Would they escort me from the building?
     
  6. dc rock

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    Stay classy, ya'll.

    :rolleyes:
     
  7. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    You are not grasping a key element of this. She was escorted out of the building for her own safety. The fans were getting unruly and according to the quote, the casino wanted to prevent the situation from getting out of control. They didn't escort her out for the comment, but rather for her protection in the unstable environment. That renders your shirt comparison completely irrelevant. They would let you sit down at the table, but they would also let people leave who were offended by it, as they did here.
     
  8. Rocketman95

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    Exactly. Way to be above the person you disagree with. "You like Michael Moore? Lemme throw my drink on you." :rolleyes:

    They should have the balls and throw the drinks on her if they really feel that way. p*****s.
     
  9. Rocketman95

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    T_J, I have no idea if any of these posts are directed at me, but if they are, for the second time, you're wasting your time. I've asked Clutch to ban me if I ever get into it with you again. I ask that you do the same.
     
  10. El_Conquistador

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    The drinks were thrown on her picture, not her.
     
  11. Deckard

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    I loved her when she was with the Stone Poneys. (yes, I saw them as well) I don't have a problem with what she did at all. I do have a problem with how she was treated by Timmins, who displayed an incredible lack of class.

    I suppose I have been accustomed to performers expressing their political views in their music, and occasionally on stage, since I started going to concerts in the mid-'60's. It's not as if she gave a diatribe to the audience, she just made her comment as an intro to the song.

    My guess would be that a large number of the audience was drunk, given the reaction. Linda shouldn't be playing casinos at this stage of her career. It's not like she needs the money.

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    I guess she's still a different drummer.

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  12. Rocketman95

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    Forgot to add that addressing me is wasting bandwidth.
     
  13. mc mark

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    Uh huh!

    A piece of paper! Somebody hit me with a piece of paper!
     
  14. Manny Ramirez

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    Sure they would if you were a well-known performer and people travelled many miles to see you perform.
     
  15. mc mark

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    Max to your second question.

    IMO there have been entertainers speaking out about politics since there's been...well...politics and entertainers.

    That was basically the beginning of Greek theater. Continued with the passion plays and on into Sartre, Goethe, Shaw and now music, TV movies.

    Same as it ever was.

    But I think people are really concerned about the future of America and the direction we are going these days. That's why people are speaking out now: In the one forum that they feel comfortable or most influential.
     
  16. MR. MEOWGI

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    Agreed. We could use more of it, not less.

    "So eager to please, Peer pressure decrees
    So eager to please, Peer pressure decrees"

    - "Chickensh!t Conformist" The Dead Kennedys
     
  17. Fegwu

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    I agree with you :eek:

    But I think it should not end there; politics should be taken away from the church, sporting events and other public fora where people of diverse background gather for anything but politics.

    I am tired of seeing stupid country singers shove their politics down our throat as well as well as artistes on the other side. If we are going to make this work we have to do it right and use a blanket procedure.
     
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    They sure are and in this case the POV was <b>resoundingly</b> not in favor of the Bush Critics.
     
  19. mc mark

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    Hey! Ya gotta take your shots!


    :D

    But at least we have come some way. We don't behead actors anymore!
     
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  20. Rocketman95

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    I'm guessing if someone drove many miles to see Linda Ronstadt perform, they'd know her political views. Half of those seats were probably comps anyway.
     

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