I only caught the last 30 minutes. Seemed really civilized. Maybe the chairs are what make the difference. Lieberman had a good zinger with "big time" and Cheney hit back with his private sector joke. I found it interesting when the candidates were asked about the rights of gay couples that Cheney didn't even mention his openly lesbian daughter, who is in a relationship. Not that I expected him to bring it up.
I thought Cheney had the upper hand in this debate , Lieberman played his lines good , cracked jokes , became friendly with "Bernie" . But Cheney losened up the room a couple times with some wise-cracks proving he isn't the evil unsensitve old man people thought he was ------------------ This signature space for rent call 555 ...
It seemed civilized. Both are much drier than their Presidential buddies. I'm sure Democrats thought Joe did fine, while Republicans were for dick. ------------------ "Only Hakeem Olajuwon is a better athlete." Dick Versace, when referring to Antonio McDyess before the draft.
Outlaw, the "big time" comment is funny. People at work call me that (in fun I hope) because I pretend to be a jerk sometimes. ------------------ "Only Hakeem Olajuwon is a better athlete." Dick Versace, when referring to Antonio McDyess before the draft.
That was more of what I expected from a debate (I only watched the 1st 45 minutes though). Both men were calm and for the most part followed the rules (only speak for 2 minutes and actually answered the questions asked). I think both of our Presidential candidates could learn something from these two about debating. ------------------
Absolutely. There is plenty of room for civility in the world, no matter what differences people may have. ------------------ I am the b*stard son of LHutz. Huh? Right!
I thought it was a much better debate. My favorite line was the exchange between the two on the accomplishments of the Clinton-Gore administration over the past 8 years. (not exact words -- but pretty close) Lieberman -- I think we should ask the same question that Regan did during Bush's (Sr.) presidential campaign. Are you better off now than you were eight years ago?... In fact, I can see from reading the papers that you, Mr. Chaney, are much better off now..." Chaney -- Yes, and I can assure you that the government had absolutely nothing to do with it. It really was a good debate, and I liked how these two handle themselves much better than their running mates. The NBC commentator even stated after the election how much better he thought it went, and said that 'unfortunately there is no prevision in the constitution for flipping the ticket.' If I had to pick a winner, I'd say Chaney, but both handled themselves well. After watching the two debates, I'd deffinitely vote for Chaney-Lieberman over Bush-Gore. ------------------ Stay Cool...
Other than the fact he probably made a ton of connections in the mid east during Desert Storm that came in handy for his job at Halliburton. Would he really be a rich oilman if he hadn't helped saved Kuwait from Sadaam?
I missed the first fifteen minutes.... -Very good debate. -Both participants were civil and provided pretty decent responses.(limited BS) -Moderator Bernard Shaw/CNN did a good job -Debate format was good ------------------ "UNBEATABLE"
Outlaw, I think he was joking that the Clinton/Gore administration didn't have anything to do with it. Lieberman went through this long speach about how Americans are better off now than they were 8 years ago, because of the actions of the Clinton-Gore administration, then jabs at Chaney that he's better off too. Chaney zings one back at him. It was just kind of funny. ------------------ Stay Cool... [This message has been edited by dc sports (edited October 06, 2000).]
Well he benefitted from Clinton's "lack of energy policy" as the oil companies aren't very tightly regulated pricewise. I just hate when people think they can become rich living in an economic vaccuum.
Economic vacuum?? I don't think Cheney thinks that all. Certainly he's not all alone in some vacuum with no one to buy oil, no one to drill for it, no one to do exploration, etc. But I have a hard time believing that Cheney wouldn't have made that money if Clinton weren't president. I hate it when anyone in the government tries to take credit for the hard work of the private sector. The most the government can do is get the hell out of the way so that those with a profit motive can go about business. As for energy policy...a typical US energy policy doesn't involve setting prices for domestic companies. It typically has meant encouraging domestic exploration, however, thereby reducing our reliance on foreign nations and increasing supply, which puts a downward effect on price. The real basis of an energy policy is the avoidance of being put over the barrel by other countries. The government is not in the business of setting prices YET in the United States. ------------------
I'm making a ton of money off of the internet that Gore invented. Ahhh... but seriously folks, this was an awesome debate. I liken Cheney to my father-in-law... someone that I'm not entirely comfortable around but someone that I can tolerate anyway. Cheney seems like a four year old anxious to play with his army men, though. He spent 30 minutes talking about the military and never addressed Lieberman's criticism that the Gore campaign has allotted more funds for the military than Cheney/Bush. That seems to be fairly indicative of their tickets casual tossing of the hands about issues... "here's our complaints, we're cool, we look good, yadda yadda". I don't want a feel good president, I want someone who understands the issues, thank you. "Abortion? Tax cuts? Hell if I know, but I'll get a BI-PAR-TI-SAN committee together and then they'll fix AM-ER-I-CA". [This message has been edited by Achebe (edited October 06, 2000).]
