I was discussing it with a collegue now beyond simply legalizing If it were . . .do you think it would every lose the stigma attached to it. Do you think it will be considered a Legit Profession? Could you imagine getting a resume where a woman puts in she was a prostitute for 5 years to get through college . . .so on and so forth and it being seen as similar to working at McDonalds? My friends states that the stigma would go away. I dunno if I agree. He also states how he feels this is empowering to women I'm not going to get on the legalize or not debate again but the question is .. . If Legalized .. . .Will the Stigma Associated with the industry be eventually removed? Rocket River . . I will post some of his points in a moment
Your friend doesn't sound very bright. I don't see many p*rn stars listing their interracial gangbangs on their resume, legality be damned.
No. Legalization would not substantially change the caliber of people who become prostitutes or their clientele.
On empowering women These are the thoughts on them I was referring I wonder what the Sexual Harrassment laws will look like I can only imagine the office politics. . . "You know she a former hoe. . . so you know she 'working it' to get to the top" Adult Films are legal and there is a stigma still on them so I cannot see how being a prostitute would be much different Rocket River
Same with "exotic dancers" (a.k.a. STRIPPERS). It's legal, but that doesn't mean that 1. you put it on your resume when interview and 2. that you're the kind of girl he takes home to meet Mom. Flipside of the argument is: can you imagine how disgusting, degenerate, disease-filled and damaging (nice alliteration, huh?) the adult film and/or stripper business would be if they were banned like prostitution? Things would be infinitely worse, and demand for the "product" would not decrease at all (quite the opposite: it would INCREASE). Legalization and regulation of these industries has made them relatively clean and safe.
If your good enough at it you dont get caught. What we don't want as a society is that I take my kids to the park and skanks are flashing the goods looking for some money. It's about responsibility to our community. There are many prostitutes now that make bank.
A stripper involves removing clothing for money. A prostitute engages in physical activity. You don't get STD's from being a stripper. The adult film industry doesn't take place on a street corner and the "star" is not banging half a dozen guys every night to make a few bucks. There are good reason why prostitution is illegal.
There could be highly successful escorts, but those would be the exception rather than the norm. Then again a manager could put her talents to use....
I don't see people putting "***** shoveler" or "garbage man" proudly on their resumes either.. hell, I leave off some retail jobs I worked on my resume because they just flat look bad on paper.... so that isn't exclusive to those involved in the sex industry banning prostitution hurts low skilled, low income people more than anything, really...
RR- I'm in favor of legalization of prostitution, and I'm in favor of women empowering themselves. That being said, your colleagues' ideas that the stigma associated with prostitution would significantly lessen in a generation is a pipe dream. It could be possible for it to lessen somewhat, but I think it would take many generations. Take racism in this country, for example. I think your friend is coming at this from a feminist perspective, and that has it's merits. But his/her statement that the only drawback is how men will perceive them... that smacks too much of the "all bad things that happen to women are men's fault" perspective. However, it's true that there are some very educated, intelligent girls who make TONS of money as a high-end escort. Some of them just sleep with 5-10 rich guys a year. I know promiscuous girls who sleep with more guys than that, and aren't paid. But these high-end escorts are the exception, by far. The majority are street walkers who are introduced to drugs at a young age, and pimps get them into working the streets to pay for the expensive habit. It's a cycle they can't escape, often because the pimp will threaten to kill them if they try. For me, the point of legalizing prostitution isn't to allow womankind a way to make 250K a year. It is to save future young women from a life of drugs, violence, disease and death by decriminalizing this activity. Allow them to have their own bank accounts, file their taxes, remove the pimps from the scene. (I know, they'll never be eliminated completely.) Regulate the business and protect them as best you can. Anyway, you didn't want to discuss this. On topic, I disagree with your friend, the "profession" will still be frowned upon even after a generation of legal activity. The culture would change slowly to be a little more accepting of it, but only a little. The fact is, it is human nature for many humans to be obsessed with what sexual activity others are pursuing, and to control it. I know a theory on why that is, but won't get into it now. I know someone who worked with all the girls at the Bunny Ranch on a musical. These girls are making very good money. If they aren't the highest of the high end, they are still doing well for themselves, and in a safe environment compared to the average prostitute. He told me that they were universally immensely insecure. In his opinion there are psychological consequences for living a life in which the only important thing you provide to the world is your vag. Not much different for models, even the extremely successful ones. The only thing they are valued for is their surface. They are for the most part terribly insecure. Most of them are pursuing other things (acting, music, production) either to boost their value in others' eyes or their own.
Thanks guys Yea. . .it is a guy and I personally think he is overly optimistic and Paternalistic in a sense I think you spot on with the 'Everything happens to women is men's fault thing' that is based on years of conversations [which is funny since he a bit of an old PLAYA *grin*] I remember reading those futuristic stories where these type of folx were referred to as Meat Puppets or some such . . . I think it can reach acceptability but won't reach respectability We accept drunks .. but does anyone really respect them We accpet p*rn stars. . . but how respected are they respect their money? Their work? Their Movies? maybe but the person? Not really I don't think it will go away in a generation . .or even two Rocket River
For what? A stigma associated with prostitution? Or for a general disdain for female empowerment? The answer is C.