Just wondering, what would happen if a parent, wife, or husband of a soldier, who lost their life in Iraq, sued the president or the administration? Can it be done in any way? Can someone sue on the basis that the president misled the country which led to the death of someone's loved one? Im sure there are some statute or law that prevents someone from suing the president, or having military family members bring such an action, but if something similar happened to me, based on the information we now know, why couldn't a lawsuit be brought? even if its doomed to fail, wouldn't it be in someone's interest to bring a media heavy lawsuit against the president so as to impact the election?
as the Commander-in-Chief, I don't think the president has to have anyone's permission to use the military. he needs Congress to declare war but i think he can use troops if he so pleases when he wants to (it's just good to make a case to the people to get their support behind the effort). i suppose eggregious use of the troops could get him impeached somehow but not sued.
I'm pretty sure if you join the military, you've just signed your life away to the military. A soldier is a soldier. We would not have them if they were not to be put into battle. When you go into that office and sign up to be a soldier, there is a chance that your life is going to be lost. Even in peace time, soldiers are commonly put into dangerous situations, whether it be in a peacekeeping force, or across the DMZ in Korea, or on some base in Turkey. The President is the Commander and Cheif and can use the military as he sees fit. That would set a horrific precedent if a soldier was allowed to sue over such things. You could have thousands of lawsuits whether you felt the war was justified or not.
Try asking those who have a child, sibling, spouse or other relative fighting the war that question. You will want to make sure you are bigger and stronger then that person because they will most likely have an overwhelming urge to beat the crap out of you. Its a disrespectful and dishonorable attempt at discrediting the death of a loved one. Ask John Kerry what veterans and their families think about the war they fought in. And to what lengths they will go to to defend that honor.
The hundreds of parents and spouses who were here protesting the convention this week would disagree with you.
Thanks for proving my point Sam. There are an estimated 1.4 million in the armed forces in the US, including over 100,000 troops in Iraq. You are basing your weak point on "hundreds" of siblings, spouses, and parents that show up for protest - some of which probably didnt even know someone in the armed forces. If the average soldier had 3 combined parents, siblings, children, and spouses, that would be about 0.01% of the armed forces represented in the protest while 99.99% chose not to protest.
Ah, make a sweeping generalization with no supporting evidence, get shown contrary evidence rendering your point questionable, and then declare victory, so even in being wrong, you're right! Plenty of people are against the war, including people whose loved ones have died, despite your attempts to use long division techniques to render their opinions irrelevant.
rvolkin...'Thanks for proving my point Sam. There are an estimated 1.4 million in the armed forces in the US, including over 100,000 troops in Iraq. You are basing your weak point on "hundreds" of siblings, spouses, and parents that show up for protest - some of which probably didnt even know someone in the armed forces. If the average soldier had 3 combined parents, siblings, children, and spouses, that would be about 0.01% of the armed forces represented in the protest while 99.99% chose not to protest'??? Did you not see Farenheit 911? Lets see how many of your 99.99% would back you up after seeing the real truth. It is better to remain silent than to speak and remove all doubts.
Forget it...not worth it? Can't stand the heat of farenheit 911? Typical right wing...W...supporter. Convenient that you do not have anything to say to repudiate the truth. The only things ya'll can do is sling filth and lies by hiding behind a bunch of swift boat W followers. Forget it...you never had it.
If you get your political views and facts from a fake documentary that by Micheal Moore, that's pretty sad. Get your own point of view.
Allright, I'm kicking myself for participating in anything involving M. Moore, becaues it always ends badly, but: SuperMac, did you see Farenheit 9/11 and make that decision on your own? Because if not.....
Yes, I did downloa...er...see it. I will admit, even though I don't agree with what he stands for, he makes a funny movie. He uses edits and one sided stories to try to prove a point. You may or may not agree with Moore's beliefs, but to take his movie for FACT and to try to make your political decisions on it is a little absurd. Here is my main point: If you want to make a political point one way or another, that is fine...but if you use a Moore movie as reference material, that is reaching. There is plenty of primary documentation out there that is uncut and factual...but anyone can take primary documentation and edit it to make it say any political message they want...and that is what Moore does.
