Steve Lebron PPG 18.1 17.3 RPG 5.9 6.7 APG 5.1 6.3 SPG 1.50 1.27 BPG .64 .73 FG% .420 .415 FT% .831 .701 3P% .288 .316 MPG 38.9 40.4 TO 3.93 3.47 I can't believe a 18 year-old rookie is a better point guard than a 5-year max-contract veteran. Before all you Francis lovers pull a "but which team has a better record??" This post is not about which team is better but who is the better point guard Lebron is a triple-double threat every single night so if you don't think his numbers will go WAY up as the season goes on, you're smoking the same stuff Eddie is.
this is one of the dumbest things i have seen here, and there have been many dumb things posted here. lebron has played, what, 15 games? on a crap team? in the east? and then throwing a stupid weed reference about a guy who has some pretty serious problems doesnt make your point anymore valid.
oh yes, and you sir, are a troll. for the record, i am a rockets fan since the twin towers and think you are even stupider for the "francis fan" comment. someone cannot disagree with your assesment without being labeled biased? i am biased towards the rockets, and that is the only place my loyalties are. i wish you people would just go away.
Back to the original title: Lebron is better. If Lebron and SF switched places - the Rox would be better than 9-5 at this point in the season and the Cavs record would be even worse. Just imagine Yao getting set up with pin-point passes for easy buckets, Cato will more alleyoops, much more fast break points, defense will be better (Cat can guard the pg, Lebron on SGs)
no, if lebron can keep up those stats the whole season, that would make him a pg in the nba. nothing special, just a pg. and the caveliers will still be a lottery team.
Steve is putting up similar numbers to Lebron except Steve has couple of good players on his team, has a better defensive team, and 4+ years of NBA experience. If you can't see something wrong here than quit pointing out that other people's post are stupid and look at your own.
So what does that make Steve? Does that mean we're paying Steve the Max even though he's 'nothing special, just a pg'? He has the same numbers. Hmmm, I guess it does.
So what's your point? Lebron's better. He's better than most NBA players. And?!? It's not like we can get him...I wish.
hell, i will admit it, i am a lebron hater. i have watch just about everyone of his games, and he is not anywhere near the caliber player everyone hypes him up to be. and i hate hype. what i hate is giving all these athletic kids tons of attention for what? dominating highschool kids? psssht! look at all the hype jay will got, and he was ok on a crap team. its always the same, jordan, drexler and hakeem were DOMINATING in their rookie years. i compare him to these guys, only because the media has. as far as being better than francis, if lebron moves to the west, and plays at this rate for a year at least, then i will consider it, untill then, its all speculation and undeserved praise.
it looks like lebron is one of the best players in the league. he may hit some slumps this year, but the kid is only 18. there's only a handful of guys in the league that a GM might rather have than lebron and those are guys like duncan, garnett, and shaq. those three are even debatable. in any case, i don't agree with using this argument to put down steve. lebron is arguably a better pg than 90% of the leagues pgs.
man, you don't get it? ok, something about averages, the more games played, the more of a chance to have diluted numbers. lebron may have 15 good games, but francis may have 5 times that, and the averages will still be the same. less games, less of an example of a consistant level of play. if you noticed, i have not said hardly anything about sf, because that is a topic that certain people will never concede, but the fact that you are comparing the play of a rookie and a 4 yr vet is not really reasonably. hell, if you wanna compare the 2, find out stevies stats from the fist month of play, at least that would be statistacally relevent. lebron is not all that. talk to me after the allstar break at least, and then we can better asses his potential.
The point is a guy that comes straight out of High School with no NBA experience is doing as well or better than Steve who is suppose to be our Franchise point guard. I'm really trying to stress the fact that steve is getting the Max because we expected him to be a player of that caliber...not Mr. 42% from the field with an almost 1/1 Assist to TO ratio. This is suppose to be the best ball handler on our team, our leader. The only thing he's lead us to is the lottery 4 years straight. If he was just a little better(gasp) his 2nd or 4th year in the league we would've been in the playoffs, but he chokes in so many close game situations that its pathetic. There are so many game in the NBA that are close in the end, the great players know how to pull out a win in these games. A great player might have a bad game but when the pressure is on he'll pull it out in the end. Steve has shown us who to give it to if we want to tank. Picture Steve rollin...
your not wrong, but last year, in the east, sub .500 teams made the playoffs. and as far as the rockets are concerned, the first lottery year, hakeem and barkley(the centerpieces of the team) were lost, stevie was hurt for over 60% of the games, and in those other 2 yrs, the rocks posted 2 of the highest games won totals without making the playoffs in the8 seed playoff format. so call them excuses if you want, but its the truth. but really, my point in bothering to reply, is to point out that it still is too early to say lebron is better than anyone. but whatever, some of you want so badly to be the first to say it, or be right and hate, that i wonder why i even bother.
All right..good point . Well there's only one King James. He's quite special...and most championship teams don't have a superstar point guard...yes it's quite pathetic as it's been going on for almost 5 years now...but what can we do? Just complain..:/ Heh..and watch us beat Sacramento tomorrow! That would be nice..
The kid is 18. He's going to hit his slumps, but you can't deny that he's for real. The kid has a ton of game. The kid is 18. I'm not saying Lebron is better than anyone, but I am saying that the kid is 18 and he's shown that he can play in this league. He's only 18. I love Steve, but all 29 GMs would trade Stevie for Lebron if such a trade were possible. The kid is 18.
