Isn't anyone else fed up with this YOF c**p? We're all supporting the Rockets ... for whatever reason...I don't care. I was raised in Houston, so I root for them. What if someone lived in Michigan but was related to Rudy T when he played for Houston so became a lifelong Rockets fan...is he now a ROF? What about the fans who followed some of our players through college then wanted to follow them in the Pros? What about the 10 year-old in Alaska who likes our unis? ...one could go on and on. No one has any right to demean someone else's desire to support any team for any reason (exception to the rule: bandwagoners ... demean them all you want ). Its just a ridiculous aconcept. In the end we're all in that same boat together and I appreciate the company.
A YOF (of which there really aren't that many these days) doesn't support the Rockets by definition, hence the name, so your thesis falls flat. Screw the YOFs, in with the ROFs.
If you only care about your player's stats etc. and not the team as a whole, then it's a problem. You are then really against the team.
I haven't had a chance to use the legitimate term YOF in awhile beacuse most have been out while Yao has been out. I will give you an example of a recent sighting I had. WNBA was the name. It came out of nowhere and said Juwan Howard shot too much and should know his place when Juwan shot over 50% and scored 30+ points in a Rockets victory. See now I know what's going on there. That's a classic YOF attitude. Not wanting another big to succeed too much in the place of Yao. You know, don't stand out too much, know your place boy kinda of thinking. How can you be a rocket fan and have that kind of attitude, you can't, to get it, you have to a YOF and dumb as hell which the two go hand-n hand. My point is they are still out there. You just have to know how to look.
So YOFs don't care if the Rockets win? How do you know that? In my hypothetical, I like to follow the Bucks because I like TJ Ford. I want him to do well, and I want the Bucks to win. Why wouldn't I want the Bucks to win? Isn't that good for Ford when the Bucks win? Many of us have our favorite players on the Rockets and like to see them do well. I think Wesley is unervalued and I like to see him do well. When he gets little respect around here I feel compelled to defend him. When Yao get's little respect around here, Yao fans want to defend him. It's only natural, and you cannot draw the conclusion that since they like one player they don't want the team to win. It's pretty easy to argue that since they like Yao, they WANT the Rockets to win.
A true YOF isn't a rockets fan, if Yao wasn't here he wouldn't be here. A true YOF just wants Yao to be successful without regards to the team concept of winning. Like last year, YOFs wanted Sura traded because "he no pass to Yao" when actually the play was designed to set up a fake post up for yao and make it so the SG or SF makes the entry pass and not the PG. YOFs are happy when the Rockets lose but Yao scores 20 and 10. YOFs are sad when Yao has a subpar game but the Rockets just secured a seed in the playoffs. YOFs are not rational people like you described. Edit:: Oh yea, and the reason why YOFs get heat here is because this is a ROCKETS board, for ROCKETS fans not a YAO board for YAO fans. Yao has his own website and forum for that. I follow lebron james' career, but I'm not a James ONLY fan, I wouldn't want the cavs to suffer just to see lebron shine, although thats what they are doing kind of.. lol but then he will only look like another loser who plays great on a bad team. Do we want Yao to be like that? Apparently YOFs do.
who cares, as long as HOU can make playoff when some people label others as YOF/YOH, themselves automatically become YOH/YOF, both are "stupid". kids!
Well since Yao shoots over 50%... Seriously, if I was a Yao fan I would be defensive. He has been undervalued, starting with donkey ass-kissing Barkley to many on this board. I can understand and empathize with many of their comments. You can certainly draw whatever assumptions you want, but if it bothered you, did you ask WNBA about whether he cared that the Rockets won? What if his response was that Juwan ignored 12 passes to an open Yao under the basket, and Yao had only 6 touches in the entire game? Are we going to ride into playoffs on the back of Juwan or Yao? (Obviously hypothetical, but the questions should be asked before you make assumptions about another based on a stereotype in your mind) Undertand the sensitivity and the valid basis for it. Do not assume that they do not want the Rockets to win. How many here really think Yao's fans would want to see Yao averaging more points a game than the Rockets winning a championship?
A classic example of name-calling ignorance. WNBA a YOF???? LMAO. Go check out most of his or her posts before you post here again. There are more YOF name callers here than true YOFs.
You can say all you want about whether he/she only cares for one player, how do you prove that? How do you prove anyone's intention? It seems to me, people are more eager to jump to debate about motive rather than action. If you disagree with someone's comment, no matter what it is regarding, why don't you stick to debating that comment, instead of painting him/her in some way? That's pretty weak to me. Nobody would claim that everything a seriel killer says is automatically wrong, why would you dismiss those fans based on your labelling on them? YOFs are worse than seriel killers, that they have to be beat down without mercy, and their opinion don't matter at all? Yes, some of them care about Rockets because of Yao. What's the big frigging deal? YOu feel hurt? Well, you fall in love with a woman, and get married, which leads to the fact you know her family and start to care about them. Should they dismiss your opinion, because they believe you should care for that whole family equally? Some of you might even don't give a damn about that family, parent and brothers of your wife. Do you feel outraged, and beat down yourself everyday? No matter how evil a YOF might be in your eyes, no matter how they only care about Yao's stats, they want Yao to win a ring, and that has to go through the team. They have to support the team, whether they are willing to or "forced to", they support the team. Maybe not in the way you do, but who are you to claim that your way is the only righteous way? Will you be so offended, if a fan is Dream only fan? Would peopel be that offended if some Minny fans claim that they are only KG fans, some Bulls fan are MJ fans only? Why you are so offended by Yao Only Fans then? Just because he's not as good as KG? Well, are you only allowed to love your wife, when she has a top model figure, angel face, 3 PhDs, 7 digits salary, iron chef skills, otherwise you have to love her family equally? Just grow up and get rid of the name calling. It doesn't make you any better.
If they are still Rockets fans years after Yao is gone then they are Rocket fans. If not, they are YOFs. And yeah, I'm better than that.
What don't you get about the term YOF? That stands for Yao ONLY Fan, as in ONLY Yao, and not the rest of the Rockets or the team to anywhere near the same degree. There have been posters in the past who are not afraid to admit that they are willing to toss the Rockets team/and or the rest of the players off a bridge so long as Yao plays well, and openly lobbied for Yao to be traded to their team of choice, be it Golden State or LA or Phoenix or whatever, in order to further YM's interests. Thankfully there aren't too many folks like that left, so I don't really know why you've all of a sudden gotten so hot and bothered about it.
The poster is a YOF extremist and particularly harsh on Yao because the poster is a YOF. The focus is always on Yao, when he has a subpar game, it's Yao is terrible, when he does well, it's yipeee. So then when Juwan has a great game while Yao is out and is criticized for it, I take notice. It's the same line of thinking last year that said Mike James is playing too well, he won't shoot like that again, he should know his place. The arrogance of a YOF mind that doesn't want to see another succeed too much because it might take the attention away from Yao. It goes a little like this, 'ha the Rockets lose, they can't win without Yao, ha' You know what i'm talking about
Is Yao left? Or you are advocating a Yao trade, just to prove some are not Rockets fans? That makes you a YOH more than a Rockets fan, because your action certainly harms the team. By the same token, before Yao leaves the Rockets, applying your logic, you can't prove anyone is YOF or Rocekts fans. So why don't you just get off your high horses, instead of claiming moral vicotry that you are better?
Totally agree with you here. This YOF crap needs to go away. It's stupid to assume that Yao fans want Rockets to fail for Yao to be successful. Many Yao fans were simply complaining about Yao's lack of touches in the game early in his career, which I think was a well documented problem even a lot of well-known basketball analysts and coaches agreed.
In other words, no matter what he says, pro or con agaist Yao, he's a YOF for sure, just because you say so. How convenient. Not only that, you know exactly everything about what others think. Of course, you don't need to prove that, coz it's not provable, and you are right by default. When I picture WNBA's reaction to your comment, I can't help laughing. It would be really interesting to see him chime in.