Lawsuit seeks to take God out of the Obama Inauguration

Thus it's actually more consequential then whoever is at the inauguration or who Obama went to church to since it goes to the heart of worship vs church/state. Just sayin...I think it's a waste of time myself (this is going to fall apart for sure) but I can understand why there are some backing this. It's really a nitpicky issue, but really, that's politics for you. It's definitely something of consequence.

 

In that Rick Warren topic, there was an article that described the "uproar" with praying in Jesus's name.

Religion in politics is a farce. Atheists who participate in that dance are none the wiser.

 

That's not exactly what the courts have decided since the display of religious symbols can and have been limited in regard to official functions like court rooms and schools.

My question though is more about philosophy than law in that should freedom be also considered that those of differing faiths, or no faiths, not be subject to worship of a particular sect in a public function. I don't have a definative answer and was raising it as a topic of debate.

 

WTH is this guy talking about?

 

Atheism is the Religion of Anti-Religion
They are as Zealous and 'fanatical' as any other religion

as someone else said
Politics and religion are a farce
It is ridiculous to think that G W truly beleived
that God wanted this war. . or this policy
however
Saying so . . .makes it more palatable to the masses
[G W is just an example but most politicians use Religion to sell the
public on things . . . .Politician will use whatever and who ever to forward
their agenda . . .Science has been similarly used]

Rocket River

 

That's pretty insulting Ref.

Issues of freedom apply to everybody, just because you don't care about this one doesn't mean other people don't.

I'd say anything that has to do with religious statehood is VERY important.

 

I would agree with you. I think Christians make a mockery of themselves screaming for courthouse displays and monuments. I think the focus is completely back-asswards for someone who claims to be following Jesus, as I understand him. I want to be careful with those lines, not just for the sake of the country but...for me, anyway...mostly for the Church. You don't want my Church infiltrating your State...I don't want your State polluting my Church.

Having said that...I'd be fine with someone being sworn in choosing to include those words OR NOT. Same as can be done in a courtroom when you take an oath. If it gets us to a higher degree of truth because someone emphasizes their oath by saying, "so help me God"...then I'm all for it. If it's meaningless to them, then it's meaningless to me, and I'd prefer they not do it.

 

i support this move. i thought this country was supposed to be free. no one should impose their religious view on me. the government should be an example by doing that.

 

I'm curious how Barack Obama taking an oath for himself and finishing it by saying, "so help me God" forces religion on you...I'm not being sarcastic, I'd just like your viewpoint on that.

If I'm out to dinner...and you're sitting at the table next to me....or even at the table with me...and I pause to thank God for the food...am I forcing it on you?

I realize there's a distinction there between public and private events....but this isn't the government advocating religion...this is one man swearing an oath and doing so with acknowledgement to the God he believes in. If he really does believe in that God...and you really do want him to take that oath seriously...whether you agree with his belief in God or not...don't you want him including that part if it facilitates him taking the oath more seriously than he might otherwise?

 

Funny how people scream Freedom and want to remove somebody else's Freedom.

Our next president should be free to express his religion... if you don't like his religion then vote for an atheist. Maybe that guy can be sworn in with... "As the big boom is my witness" or something.

 

Bravo.

 

I learned this by watching Jeopardy, but I figured it out and would have won a bunch of money. anyway, words that were added to the original oath of the presidency by George Washington

"So Help Me God"

 

but he was a deist, right?

 

Actually I was told a streetside booth that he was a Scientologist, so I assume that is correct.

 

President Xenu