According to Mitch Lawrence's column: "The Rockets aren't breaking up their old-age home, just yet. According to one GM who has talked to the Rockets, you can get Tony Massenburg, currently being shopped. But the Rockets aren't looking to move Charles Barkley or Hakeem Olajuwon. Probably because each is unmovable. Barkley makes $9 mil this season, while Olajuwon is at $14 mil this season and $17 mil the next." ------------------ Clutch Out to prove Scottie Pippen will apologize at gunpoint. www.clutchcity.net
Excellent idea Rockets. Out with new and in with the old. Let's trade him and get somebody who is athletic so they will fit really nice into our new "running" style of offense. Rudy, you have ridden the coattails of Olajuwon too long. His back must be killing him for carrying you all these years. Are you trying to ride him into the Hall of Fame also?
I like T-Mass. He has some real sweet baseline moves. But unfortuantely he may not be as big an asset to the team. Let's trade him to Detroit for Derek Harper ------------------ "I'd like to buy a layup" -Walt Williams
Thanks for the scoop, Clutch. This one's interesting. Not much you could get for TMass, but if packaged with say a Mobley/Rogers you might be able to hit the jackpot. BUT, a deal like this could really leave the Rockets thin along the frontline.
Obviously, TMass' stock has gone way down since the Rockets acquired him in the off-season, but I'm sure a lot of GM's have not forgotten what he did with the Grizz. I still don't see why he doesn't see more time. He is an excellent defneder, he is strong enough to bang with centers, and his rebounding is consistent. He may not be a prolific scorer, but we don't need that from a guy who plays Barkley's position. If trading him meant we would get Derek Harper or another vet PG, I would be all for it. Especially if we continue to waste his services like we are. Azim da Dream ------------------ "Change does not necessarily assure progress, but progress undeniably requires change." - Motto of the Houston Rockets
hmm.... Not bad. Devean George is young and is a great player. But I dont know if Rudy wants to get a rookie. I would do it.
Nah... George is a rookie who isn't getting much time over there in LA. He's just like our Kenny Thomas. Why get him? Just give Kenny the minutes. He's better than George. The Fakers were pissed when we got him before they were able to. Plus, T-Mass gives us reliable, veteran minutes. We don't need another rookie. ------------------ Francis+Charles+Dream-Pippen= Rockets 2000 NBA Champions
That's what I'm sayin, he looks a little like the Rubin Patterson replacement in L.A., and God knows how they could use a decent PF. Green at this point in his career, only brings to the ball games respect and experience.
I like your idea Caucasionsensation. I was thinking, since the Warriors are playing like complete sh*t. Maybe we can strip them for some of their players. I was thinking along this line. Warriors get: Massenburg, Drew, Mack (sign and trade) Rockets get: Adonal Foyle and Mookie Blaylock. This trade gives us a back up big man who can play both the 4 and 5 effectively. He is near the end of his rookie contract. he can block shots and rebound very well. Mookie gives us a backup PG with solid D and decent passing skills. He has been a starter his whole career, but I don't think he'd mind playing behind Francis. Anything would be better than his current situation. I know he can't shoot, but that's not what we need from him. We need a smart defensive minded PG who is looking to pass. Oh and the salaries are pretty close.
Ace, you used to be my homey, used to be my ace, now I want to slap the taste out of your face. Kiddin... but seriously do you think the skitzophrenic Rocks are ready to win? I think they are in the process of rebuilding. Hakeem is gone in body and spirit, Charles is gone in mind (Already talked himself out of contention), Francis is in training, the kids (Mobley and Drew) are actively learning the ropes, Williams is well horrid, Cato needs more time to progress from foul machine status. To many of the team's players are preparing for the future, while two are preparing for retirement.
No way. I would never make a trade like that. Adonal Foyle has the worst set of hands in the NBA. Can't even catch a pass. Mookie Blaylock is a joke and I don't even want to get into this guy. If there is a black hole in the NBA at point guard, it is him. Besides, we are rebuilding...we don't need this old geezer in here. Warriors already made a mistake trading away Jason Terry for this guy, don't let them off the hook.
George can't even get minutes with the Lakers. They start AC Green, damn it! Our deepest position is power forward. These injuries are the perfect opportunity for some of our guys to get minutes. Rebuilding, by the way, does not mean get as many young players as possible. Imagine how badly we would suck if we only had 20 year olds on our roster... T-Mass brings us that veteran play from the bench. We do not need another young power forward. We have Thomas and Carlos Rogers as the young guns and Massenburg and Barkley as the veteran leaders. That's a pretty good combination. ------------------ Francis+Charles+Dream-Pippen= Rockets 2000 NBA Champions
Um, isn't george a small forward? When you look at it from that perspective I think you can see why he doesn't get as much playing time. I think getting D. George might be a good idea if we are ready to give up on this season. If so, start letting Kenny Thomas get in some minutes at power forward. Also ship T-Mass to LA for D. George so we can have a young small forward for the future. And gie Carlos Rogers a lot more playing time -- at both forward positions.
George is a SF. AC is playing something close to decent but will probably run out of gas by mid season.
Let me say that Trading TMass now would make Rudy T, the biggest idiot this side of the equator. And combined with his other great offseason decisions should garner many doubts to his decision making abilities. Does He realize that the Rox are now without Hak for up to 2 months? And that Cato is a foul waiting to happen, and now that Cato is starting the first option off the bench is either Kenny Thomas or Hambone??? If they let go of Tmass, Ill officially believe that Rudy is tanking this season.
My sentiments exactly dreamshake99. We need that veteran big body off the bench, and while Hamilton can handle the NBA's slow giants, TMass can spell Cato for some of the smaller and quicker centers. One thing is certain, we are going to find out what kind of player Kelvin Cato truly is in the next few weeks. Azim da Dream ------------------ "Change does not necessarily assure progress, but progress undeniably requires change." - Motto of the Houston Rockets
Was I the only one that noticed Georges talent when he played against the Rockets when Shaq got ejected? Anyways I would rather keep Tmass he is a very good player who the Rockets could actualy use this year if Rudy got his head out of his @ss maybe with Dream out for so long he will get some mins. If he doesn't don't be surprised if Tmass starts next year barring any trades or Pf aquisitions. The guy is scrappy something this team has been missing right now since Rudy never plays Shandon. ------------------ "We need to fockass".....Dream back in the day
As a Colgate Alum, I have to nix the Adonal Foyle talk right here and right now. The last thing we need is another slow big man with no offensive skills to clog the lane. The man went to Colgate over Duke and Syracuse!!! Not that Colgate isn't a fine school, but when you have that size of a body you have to go somewhere they can teach you to use it. Adonal wants to be the President of his little island in the Caribbean...he doesn't really want to be a basketball star. Although I would take Mookie in a heartbeat.
