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Last year the future looked so bright, now there's so much doubt

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Zacatecas, May 9, 2004.

  1. Zacatecas

    Zacatecas Member

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    I can't beleive what one season has done to this Rockets team. Last year at this time we were worried about who was going to be the coach to lead the Rockets into the next decade.

    Yao
    Griffin
    Posey
    Mobley
    Francis

    Cato
    Taylor
    Nachbar
    Norris

    And we thought the personel moves were done.

    But then Griffin went awol. Posey signed for millions at Memphis. Norris finally feel appart.

    It's official that Francis will never be able to take care of the ball. Taylor can't seem to swing the ball to another teamate once he gets it; or get a rebound. Cato will never have an offensive game.

    The bright side of the season was that Mobley doesn't have to be a ball hog to be effective in a game. Yao is one quarter season's endurance away from being dominant.



    I'm just shocked that one summer where we thought we were done with personel moves, personel moves are going to dominate our offseason.

    Van Gundy said it best "Great players get traded, stay with the team their whole careers, or sign away via free agency". I'm starting to ponder what Yao could bring? Kobe?
     
  2. across110thstreet

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    i disagree.

    Our future's so bright, we gotta wear shades:cool:
     
  3. StevieFlight3

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    i agree with u Zacatecas. Griffen....what can i say he had so much pot he could have really helped this team now and in the future. Not sign Posey for MLE was a horiable decison who did we get instead Jim Jackson(Yes hes played great, but hes like 34 next year, thats to old), and Pike.
     
  4. Faos

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    How can there be doubt when we don't know what moves this team will make in the off season? Can't we just wait until we see the opening day roster before throwing in the towel next season?

    Some of you people need a vacation.
     
  5. vj23k

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    No kidding.
     
  6. Zacatecas

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    2 years ago, you would have been torn appart for suggesting a Francis trade. Now I see a Francis trade rumors for Rose and Marshal plus a pick; and more Rocket fans than I thought; supriseingly seem to like it!! Geez.

    There is ficken doubt make no mistake about it. The direction of this team is up in the air.
     
  7. New Jack

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    That is the NBA for you. For most teams, it takes several attempts at rebuilding before they get it right. How many attempts did it take Dallas, and Sacramento, and Denver, and Mephis before they finally found the right group of players to build around and reach the point where they're at now?

    Hopefully next season the Rockets can find some new core players and get it right on the second attempt.
     
  8. LegendZ3

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    Gave up on Eddie is the worst decision Rockets made this season IMHO, boy could of be something if CD and Les kept eyes on him.
     
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  10. Faos

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    Has Dallas really gotten it right?
     
  11. Pat

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    Z, I have to disagree with you. Nothign really changed except for our perception. One at a time and in order.

    Griffin was all promise. He had actually done very little. Yes I was excited about his potential, but it was nothing that was in the bank. Based on how wee felt/saw two years ago, we only lost a part time player who was a defensive liability. Yes there is no more potential there to dream about. But what we actually lost was not that much.

    Posey, I hated to lose him. But he is not the diference. Definately a rotation player for any team, starter for most, but not the difference. Besides JJ gave us everything we had previously gotten from Posey. Again, I like Posey and wish we still had him. But in the end good player gone, good player in his place.

    Norris was a feel appart long ago. It is just that two years ago, Moochies big year was still in memorys range.

    Francis never could take care of the ball, it is just that now we know it.

    Taylor could never pass, nor rebound.

    Cato never had an offensive game.

    All the signs were there two years ago, we just didn't fully realize them or accept them. That is why you and I are not GM's.
    But hey, we get Sundays off to have conversations like this.
     
  12. Pat

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    BTW, I think our future is brighter than ever. I feel mamagement does see our problems and is working to address them. I like JVG and I like our style of play. I can't wait till all of the players "get it" and get with the system.
     
  13. MemphisX

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    We haven't got it right yet. Look for our team to be very different next season.
     
  14. StevieFlight3

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    you guys have done great, 5th in the West, first time in the playoffs.
     
  15. rwienert

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    I think everyone should stop hitting the panic button.

    3 years before Shaq and Kobe had one their first ring, they had already been anointed the team that would win it all. In their fourth season of being expected to win it all, they finally did.

    I know that Yao is not as established as Shaq and Kobe is better than Francis, but the point is that you don't go from the lottery to contender in a year or 2. It takes time for a team to mature enough to push deep into the postseason. And time does not mean 30 games, it means several seasons.

    Tinkering is still in order to get the team right, but all the doomsday prophets who want to blow the whole thing up are overreacting.
     
  16. Nuggets4

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    The new jerseys will help that. :p Seriously though, you're right, Memphis is gonna make some changes for sure. Isn't Stromile a RFA? Plus, I've heard rumblings that The Logo isn't real happy with Pau as the leader of the team.

    As for the Rockets, you guys have some potential, you just need to re-adjust it. This is all just my personal opinion, so take it for what it's worth. Mobley and Francis need to go. Honestly, the way they play, they will never be on a championship level team. You guys have the biggest building block in the NBA, literally. Use it! Yao can be a stud if used correctly. The man is an incredible passer. I know a majority of you hate it, but the Rose + Mo Pete for Francis deal would be a steal for you guys. Let Rose play the 1, slide JJ to the 2 (HUGELY UNDERRATED player. I love watching him, unless he's playing my Nugs), put Mo Pete at the 3. You have Yao, it's boring as hell, but trot up the court, let him go down low, dump it in, let him do his thing and if nothing works dump it out. Repeat. Repeat again. Pete and Rose are both slashers so they can aleve some of the pressure on Yao as well. JJ can shoot the three. A PJ Brown type player at the 4, and you're set.

    But that's just how I see it as someone who's not a fan of the team. Take it for what it's worth...my opinions and $4 will get you a small coffee at Starbucks.
     
  17. Ying Yang

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    2 years ago yetti was saying that we neeed to trade francis.
     
  18. edc

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    *shrug*. They seem to "get it" just fine. "It" is unfortunately not going to win the West.
     
  19. Dallas Rocket

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    I couldn't disagree more. EG has no one to blame but himself and he sorely let down a team that gave up a lot to get him. No question, his absence really hurt. And the team really cut him as much slack as possible given the givens. He's got MAJOR problems and cutting him loose, however painful, was the right thing for the Rox. I seriously doubt he'll ever make an impact in this league, if he even ever plays again.

    What a waste :rolleyes:

    D R
     
  20. Zacatecas

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    Well, without Yao, nobody would be talking about trading Francis.

    Francis, Mobley, Taylor, Cato, Griffin were a core group that was being primed to make the best run they could. Then Yao is put into the mix.

    Griffins already weak state of mind collapsed when Yao took over the post position. Francis and Mobley isolation plays make the Rockets look stupid; after all when there is a 7'6" Yao Ming asking politely for the ball. Taylor and Cato aren't the long term running mate of Yao because one can't score and the other can't play defense.

    Geez I thought Yao would be a compliment to the Rockets, not the beginning of the rebuilding project again!!
     

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