against non-whites or Jews. From a Texan. This was in another older, thread, couldn't search for it, this has updated information. http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1229/p02s01-usju.html from the December 29, 2003 edition The terror threat at home, often overlooked As the media focus on international terror, a Texan pleads guilty to possessing a weapon of mass destruction. By Kris Axtman | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor HOUSTON – It began as a misdelivered envelope and developed into the most extensive domestic terrorism investigation since the Oklahoma City bombing. Last month, an east Texas man pleaded guilty to possession of a weapon of mass destruction. Inside the home and storage facilities of William Krar, investigators found a sodium-cyanide bomb capable of killing thousands, more than a hundred explosives, half a million rounds of ammunition, dozens of illegal weapons, and a mound of white-supremacist and antigovernment literature. "Without question, it ranks at the very top of all domestic terrorist arrests in the past 20 years in terms of the lethality of the arsenal," says Daniel Levitas, author of "The Terrorist Next Door: The Militia Movement and the Radical Right." But outside Tyler, Texas, the case is almost unknown. In the past nine months, there have been two government press releases and a handful of local stories, but no press conference and no coverage in the national newspapers. Experts say the case highlights the increased cooperation and quicker response by US agencies since Sept. 11. But others say it points up just how political the terror war is. "There is no value for the Bush administration to highlighting domestic terrorism right now," says Robert Jensen, a journalism professor at the University of Texas in Austin. "But there are significant political benefits to highlighting foreign terrorists, especially when trying to whip up support for war." Mr. Levitas goes even further: "The government has a severe case of tunnel vision when it comes to domestic terrorism. I have no doubt whatsoever that had Krar and his compatriots been Arab-Americans or linked to some violent Islamic fundamentalist group, we would have heard from John Ashcroft himself." The case began in the fall of 2002 when a package bound for New Jersey was misdelivered to a New York address. The family inadvertently opened the package and found fake identification badges, including Department of Defense and United Nations IDs. The FBI eventually tracked the package back to Mr. Krar in Noonday, Texas. The cache of weapons and bombs was found when the FBI served a search warrant in April of this year. Krar and his common-law wife, Judith Bruey, and the receiver of the package, New Jersey Militia member Edward Feltus, were arrested. All three have pleaded guilty to separate counts and are awaiting sentencing. Brit Featherston, the assistant US attorney in charge of the case, says it was Krar and Ms. Bruey's connections to white-supremacist groups that prompted further investigation. "Any little town has worse criminals on paper than these two. But because of their background, the red flags were flying all over the place - especially after Sept. 11," says Mr. Featherston, in the eastern district of Texas. Before Sept. 11, he says, the case most likely would have been worked as a false-ID case and ended there. Instead, dozens of law-enforcement agencies were involved and hundreds of subpoenas were served. "This case was very high priority," says Featherston. Still, investigators have been unable to answer questions such as: Where was the sodium-cyanide bomb destined? And were the weapons being prepared for a group or sold individually? Featherston says the investigation is ongoing and won't end until these questions are answered. Experts say the case is important not only because of what it says about increased government cooperation, but also because it shows how serious a threat the country faces from within. "The lesson in the Krar case is that we have to always be concerned about domestic terrorism. It would be a terrible mistake to believe that terrorism always comes from outside," says Mark Potok at the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery, Ala. The fact is, the number of domestic terrorist acts in the past five years far outweighs the number of international acts, says Mark Pitcavage of the fact-finding department at the Anti-Defamation League. "We do have home-grown hate in the United States, people who are just as ill-disposed to the American government as any international terrorist group," he says. Levitas estimates that there are approximately 25,000 right-wing extremist members and activists and some 250,000 sympathizers. The Southern Poverty Law Center counted 708 hate groups in 2002. While Mr. Pitcavage was surprised the Krar case did not receive more attention, "It is a fact that a lot of stories involving domestic extremists get undercovered," he says. He points to a case he calls one of "the major terrorist plots of the 1990s" in which militia from around the country converged in central Texas allegedly to attack a military base. They were arrested at a campground near Fort Hood on the morning of July 4, 1997, with a large collection of weapons and explosives. "There was virtually no media coverage of that incident either," says Pitcavage. Featherston speculates that the Krar case got little attention because the arrests were made just after the war began in Iraq. "Excuse me, a chemical weapon was found in the home state of George Bush," says Levitas. "I'm not saying the Justice Department deliberately decided to downplay the story because they thought it might be embarrassing to the US government if weapons of mass destruction were found in America before they were found in Iraq. But I am saying it was a mistake not to give this higher profile." For his part, Krar has remained silent. He will most likely be sentenced sometime in February, and could receive up to life in prison. His attorney, Tonda Curry, says the US government has no reason to be afraid of him. "It looks a whole lot worse than it is. He had a lot of things that most people would never have any desire to have, but much of what he had was perfectly legal." www.csmonitor.com | Copyright © 2003 The Christian Science Monitor. All rights reserved.
Seriously? I don't think that all Republicans are racist by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm guessing that white racists are generally more Republican than Democrat. Of course, you may mean that they don't vote at all...
I'm sorry if I'm reading this incorrectly, but it sounds like the government made two press releases of this event and it was in the local news. I don't see how this connects to Bush unless you are of one of the following two opinions: 1) President Bush hasn't tightened security enough if this could happen. (A position that most liberals disagree with) 2) President Bush should nationalize all media and have them all report "A lot of people are full of hate and will try to kill a lot of people. We caught one. We are going after another one who has actually succeeded and I will be called one and may be one because of it." 3) Its the job of the President to ensure a terror threat works by not downplaying it. I may be pessimistic, but I don't find the fact that someone has a WMD inside the US surprising. I try not to think about it.
these people are anarchists...they're against government control, entirely, somehow i doubt they're real impressed with George W. Bush...i'm guessing they're not real thrilled at the makeup of his cabinet, either.
I'm sorry if I'm reading this incorrectly, but it sounds like the government made two press releases of this event and it was in the local news. I don't see how this connects to Bush unless you are of one of the following two opinions: I think the way its connected to Bush is simply emphasis. If it was an Al Qaeda cell that had that exact stuff, this would be the focus of Bush, Ashcroft, and the entire administration as a victory in the war on terror. It would be used to encourage people to be vigilant and report suspicious activity, etc. Since its domestic, none of that is mentioned, <I>even though the threat of domestic terrorism is just as high as international</I>. If we're supposed to be on the lookout for suspicious people, highlighting that Americans are potential sources of terror too would seem like a good idea. When people talk about racial profiling and say we should focus on Middle Easterners, this is an example of the problem there - but it's not given the same attention as the other group of terrorists, so people don't know that. The cynic in me would say its more politically appealing to project radical Middle Easterners as the enemy rather than ordinary Americans. Realistically, I don't know why this wouldn't have gotten much attention.
Major - I'm not trying to be a jackass here...I don't have to try very hard! But honestly...haven't the bulk of the major terrorist attacks in this country and on US interests abroad over the course of the last 10 years been ones from Islamic fundamentalists? The World Trade Center was attacked twice...the USS Cole...various hijackings of commercial airlines...embassy bombings. I mean, we're literally at war with that ideology. Of course there are other nutbags out there who would do us harm...and many of those are home-grown nutbags. But I have no problem with us focusing on preventing terrorism from those who've declared war on us. I have no problem with the government putting disproportionate resources towards that end.
Yeah, domestic terrorism is just a as big a threat as Islamic fundamentalism. Wait, I just remembered 9/11, Cole Bombing, WTC bombings, etc. etc. etc. Some interetsing lines: "Experts say the case highlights the increased cooperation and qicker response by US agencies since Sept. 11. But others say it points up just how political the terror war is." Others, like Jensen, make an extremist political point, but the fact is that Bush's reforms have helped stop these domestic terror groups, as the real experts point out. "The fact is, the number of domestic terrorist acts in the past five years far outweighs the number of international acts, says Mark Pitcavage of the fact-finding department at the Anti-Defamation League." The fact is, they have murdered far fewer Americans than Islamic terrorist groups, and we are right to focus on one more than the other.
haven't the bulk of the major terrorist attacks in this country and on US interests abroad over the course of the last 10 years been ones from Islamic fundamentalists? The World Trade Center was attacked twice...the USS Cole...various hijackings of commercial airlines...embassy bombings. I don't know - I would think so. However, if a radical militia member goes out and guns down somebody because of a government affiliation, do we classify it as a terrorist attack? I'd definitely agree that in terms of "big" attacks, the radical Islamic movement has been a far greater threat. However, due to ease of access and ability to acquire weapons more easily, you could argue that these militias have the potential to be just as dangerous. I mean, we're literally at war with that ideology. Of course there are other nutbags out there who would do us harm...and many of those are home-grown nutbags. But I have no problem with us focusing on preventing terrorism from those who've declared war on us. I agree. However, many of these militia groups consider the federal government an enemy to the people too. And they can be just as crazy as the Islamic fundamentalists. The thing they seem to be lacking is mostly organization and strategy - they have resources (less money, but more & easier access), people, the ideology, etc. Like I said, I don't know the reasons that attention wasn't given to this particular story. The cynic in me - mostly because of other decisions by this administration - says there are political reasons. It just seems that anytime we find a cache of 500,000 pieces of ammunition, hundreds of explosives, and a massive bomb, it would be a big deal and a national story. However, this isn't entirely an administration thing - this happened in Texas and we haven't heard about it from local media either. It's disappointing that we are turning a blind eye to it, more or less, in terms of significance. This is repeated throughout American history - we focus on one threat because it's obvious, and in the meantime, we allow another to fester and build until it becomes a real threat.
major -- like you, i'm baffled by the fact this story hasn't been run anywhere. i was talking about this with family over the holidays, and they didn't even know what i was talking about.
The cynic in you and the cynic in me (ok, I'm all cynic) would get along. I may quabble about the term *politically* appealing, though. It strikes me that the fact this hasn't been reported widely is as much, or more, the fault of the media than the administration. The info is clearly out there. Our crappy mass media, however, either doesn't deem it credible or newsworthy and therefore doesn't speak about it.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...7jan07,1,2375735.story?coll=la-home-headlines THE NATION Case Yields Chilling Signs of Domestic Terror Plot Arms cache in Texas leads to convictions but few answers. Critics fault focus on foreign threats. January 7, 2004 Times Headlines By Scott Gold, Times Staff Writer HOUSTON — One evening two winters ago, a man in Staten Island, N.Y., absent-mindedly flipped through his mail. Inside one envelope was a stack of fake documents, including United Nations and Defense Department identification cards, and a note: "We would hate to have this fall into the wrong hands." It had. The package, intended for a member of a self-styled militia in New Jersey, had been delivered to the wrong address. From that lucky break, federal officials believe they may have uncovered one of the most audacious domestic terrorism plots since the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people. Starting with a single piece of mail, investigators discovered an enormous cache of weapons in Noonday, in East Texas, including the makings of a sophisticated sodium cyanide bomb capable of killing thousands of people. Three people — William Krar, a small-time arms dealer with connections to white supremacists; Krar's common-law wife, Judith L. Bruey; and Edward S. Feltus, the man who was supposed to have received the forged documents — pleaded guilty in the case in November. They are being held in a Tyler, Texas, detention facility and are scheduled to appear before a federal judge for sentencing next month. But what is typically the end of a criminal case may be only the beginning in this one. Some government investigators believe other conspirators may be on the loose. And they readily acknowledge that they have no idea what the stash of weapons was for — though they have tantalizing and alarming clues of a "covert operation or plan," according to an FBI affidavit. "What was Krar going to do with this stuff? That's what we want to know — and we don't know," said Brit Featherston, an assistant U.S. attorney and the federal government's anti-terrorism coordinator in the eastern district of Texas. "There is no legitimate reason to have this stuff. The bottom line is that it only had one purpose, and that was to kill people. And it's very troubling that we have yet to figure it out." Krar, 62, who lived in the piney woods of Noonday, a tiny community about 100 miles southeast of Dallas, pleaded guilty to possession of a chemical weapon and faces a possible sentence of life in prison, Featherston said. Bruey, 54, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to possess illegal weapons and faces a maximum sentence of five years in prison, Featherston said. Feltus, 56, of New Jersey, has pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting the transportation of false identification documents and faces a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison, Featherston said. According to the FBI affidavit, Feltus has told investigators that he is a member of a group called the New Jersey Militia, which, according to its website, believes the federal government has grown too powerful and says it is "ready, as a last resort, to come to our nation's defense against all enemies, foreign or domestic." It is unclear whether Krar or Bruey had any involvement with the organization. Neither representatives of the New Jersey Militia nor attorneys representing Feltus and Bruey could be reached for comment. Tonda L. Curry, a Tyler attorney, represents Krar, who appears to have made much of his living, investigators say, by manufacturing trigger parts for .223-caliber Bushmaster rifles. Krar, Curry acknowledged, is an "eccentric" who broke the law by possessing weapons he was not licensed to own, including fully automatic guns. He has not cooperated with investigators, and Curry would not reveal any details of her conversations with Krar regarding motives for possessing the weapons. She said, however, that she had "never seen anything that indicates there was any kind of terrorism plot or any intent to use these things against the American people or the government in any way." "He was not the type who kept these things at ready access. They were miles from his home in a storage facility," Curry said. "His home was not a bunker, an arsenal, whatever you want to call it, where he was ready to attack. These things were stored as collectibles." The case began to unfold in January 2002, when the package was mistakenly delivered to Staten Island. Investigators traced it to a mailing and business center near Tyler, then to Krar and Bruey, who lived together in Noonday. With Bruey's permission, they searched a storage facility the couple had rented. The firepower inside shocked law enforcement officers. Investigators found nearly 500,000 rounds of ammunition, 65 pipe bombs and briefcases that could be detonated by remote control. Most distressing, they said, was the discovery of 800 grams of almost pure sodium cyanide — material that can only be acquired legally for specific agricultural or military projects. The sodium cyanide was found inside an ammunition canister, next to hydrochloric, nitric and acetic acids and formulas for making bombs. If acid were mixed with the sodium cyanide, an analysis showed, it would create a bomb powerful enough to kill everyone inside a 30,000-square-foot facility, investigators said. Also discovered were anti-Semitic, antiblack and antigovernment books and pamphlets, according to the FBI's affidavit. The affidavit included documents recovered from a rental car Krar was driving in Tennessee when he was pulled over by a state trooper in January 2003 for a minor traffic violation. Inside the car, according to the affidavit, the trooper found many weapons, including two handguns, 16 knives, a stun gun and a smoke grenade. The documents were titled "trip" and "procedure," and appeared to list rendezvous points in cities across the nation. They also listed what appeared to be code phrases; some investigators say they believe the phrases could be used to indicate a level of awareness of law enforcement officials or others. " 'Tornadoes are expected in our area' — things very hot; lay low or change your travel plans," one document said. " 'Major thunder storms are predicted' — they are looking pretty hard; be cautious." The clues, wrote FBI Special Agent Bart B. LaRocca in the affidavit, suggested an "involved criminal scheme which could potentially include plans for future civil unrest and/or violent civil disorder against the United States government." Revelations, however, that many questions remain unanswered in the case have made it the target of the new, post-Sept. 11 politics of terrorism. Critics of the Bush administration say federal officials and the mainstream media are suffering from tunnel vision — that they are so focused on international threats that they have failed to give sufficient attention to threats at home. At most, the critics say, increased attention to this case could have brought more answers. At the least, they say, if the defendants in this case had been people with foreign backgrounds or Muslims, U.S. Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft himself would have announced the arrests and the guilty pleas. Instead, details of the case were revealed in a half-page press release sent to local media. Officials say the case was at one point included in President Bush's daily security briefings, but it remains virtually unknown outside East Texas — even though, critics point out, it represents an instance in which federal authorities discovered a weapon of mass destruction. Much of the criticism has come on Internet Web logs, known as "blogs." People who operate the websites, or "bloggers," have seized on the Krar case and what they perceive as the inattention it received from the Bush administration and major media. The fault, critics say, lies not with law enforcement officers, whom they believe prevented a deadly plot from developing. Instead, they say, the fault lies with an administration that adheres too closely to a script. "If anyone wanted evidence that the 'war on terror' is primarily a political marketing campaign — in which war itself is mostly a device for garnering support — they need look no further than the startling non-response to domestic terrorism by the Bush Administration," one blog, called Orcinus, said recently. The blog, which uses a killer whale as its mascot and targets the nexus of politics, culture and journalism, is written and compiled by David Neiwert, a Seattle resident and former journalist. Robert Jensen, an associate professor in the School of Journalism at the University of Texas in Austin and director of the College of Communication's honors program, agrees with the criticism. He says that the Bush administration, to promote its efforts overseas, "needs a public that is afraid and sees these wars as justified." "The primary justification is a fear of people 'out there' who want to come here and get us," he said. "Arrests of foreigners are very effective arrests to publicize. It has a political function. Domestic terrorism may be, in some ways, more of a threat. But there is no reason to publicize it. It doesn't have any political benefit." Federal officials disagreed with the contention that their international investigation into terrorism had distracted them from domestic threats. "Certainly, our international anti-terrorism efforts are clearly the No. 1 priority," said Mary Beth Buchanan, the Pittsburgh-based U.S. attorney for the western district of Pennsylvania and the chairwoman of a committee of federal prosecutors that advises Ashcroft. "But domestic terrorism is also a part of that. As we've increased our efforts to find the sources of international terrorism, we are also stepping up our efforts in the area of domestic terrorism as well." Mark Corallo, a spokesman for the Justice Department, said the observations about the Krar case are overly cynical. "We don't spend a lot of time thinking about how we announce our activities," he said. "We base all our decisions on the facts and the law and we pursue all violations … vigorously."
Strangely Enough.. This one didn't get much airplay either... from a couple of years ago.. Florida man plotted mosque attacks, feds say August 23, 2002 Posted: 11:19 PM EDT (0319 GMT) SEMINOLE, Florida (CNN) --A Florida doctor arrested after police found more than 15 homemade explosive devices in his home drafted a detailed plan to blow up a Muslim educational center, investigators said Friday. A search of Robert J. Goldstein's residence also turned up a list of about 50 Islamic worship centers in the Tampa-St. Petersburg area and other locations in Florida, according to a court papers. Goldstein, who was taken into custody after his wife called police Thursday night, has been charged with one count of possessing destructive devices and one count of attempting to damage and destroy buildings by means of explosive devices. Attached to the criminal complaint against Goldstein was a three-page "mission template" for an attack on an unidentified "Islam education center," which included a map of the center showing where bombs would be placed. The document said the objective was to "Kill all 'rags' at this Islamic Education Center -- ZERO residual presence -- maximum effect." Deputies from the Pinellas County Sheriff's Department were summoned to the Goldstein home Thursday night, after his wife, Kristi, called to report that he had threatened to kill her, according to the court affidavit. She authorized agents to search the premises, where they found more than 15 homemade bombs. Goldstein surrendered to officers and was taken to a local hospital for psychiatric evaluation, the sheriff's department said. Friday afternoon, he made an initial appearance in U.S. District Court and was being held in federal custody, said Special Agent Carlos Baixaulia of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. In addition to the 15 and 20 explosive devices that were found, there were also enough bomb components in the home to to make 30 to 40 more devices, Baixaulia said. Deputies also found books on how to make explosives and devices that could be used to explode bombs by remote control, along with homemade C-4 -- a type of explosive -- hand grenades and homemade military mines, the sheriff's department said. Authorities also recovered 30 to 40 weapons, including semi-automatic weapons and a .50-caliber sniper rifle, the sheriff's department said. Find this article at: http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/23/florida.explosives
But the Florida one made CNN right away. The Feds only released media info on the Texas one to local media. Other people had to send investigative reporters to dig up the data on the Texas crazy.