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Laptops and their cheap tricks !

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by DaDakota, Feb 4, 2010.

  1. DaDakota

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    Well, I got this tricked out Asus G50V back in October, and it locked up in a reboot cycle in December, so I used the recovery disks and it reformatted my drive and I had to reinstall all my apps.

    Well, it did it again just now, I think it happens when I let it run all the way down on battery etc.

    So this time, I vowed to use the REPAIR option and not the recovery option, well, guess what?

    It does not come with a REPAIR option and since it is crappy VISTA I had no way of getting it to work without whiping my drive again and then reinstalling office etc....which sucks because that would be 3 of my 5 installs on one laptop.

    Well, I did a little internet seraching and found an ISO file of the Vista repair program, burned it to CD and WALLAH, it worked.

    I am now in my car testing out a DC power inverter for my trip tomorrow and happily posting on Clutchfans using the laptop.

    And I didn't lose any of my data......So, if you have a laptop, take a look to see if they give you an actual Windows disk, more than likely these days they just go the cheap route and give you their own recovery disk which whipes EVERYTHING off and goes back to factory default settings.

    Silly ASUS !!!!!

    Instead of a day wasted, it was about 2 hours...hoorary......for the interwebs.

    THE INTERNET SOLUTION ROX

    DD
     
  2. Depressio

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    (insert congratulations)

    (insert implicit "cool story bro" picture)
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Look if this helps one more person on here then it will have been worth the post....

    It literally took a day and a half last time to get everything working etc....now......back up and running.

    Spread the word !!

    DD
     
  4. Miguel

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    Mother told me, yeah she told me, I'd meet folks like you
    She also told me, stay away, you never know what they'll post.
    Just the other day, I heard of posters getting repped
    For some DaDa joke that's going round...

    moes is alright, DaDa's alright
    They just seem a little weird.
    Surrender, Surrender...
    But don't give your rep away.






    (this song has been stuck in my head for the better part of 2 weeks, Conan + Cheap Trick = win)
     
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  5. dandorotik

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    Cheap Trick: Favorite all-time American band, criminally underrated- last 5 albums are absolutely terrific and don't get one iota of airplay. Surrender is the 2nd best song ever written. Influenced Green Day, Stone Temple Pilots, Guns N Roses, Soundgarden, Nirvana (Cobain: "We sound just like Cheap Trick, only our guitars are louder"), Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, The Ramones, Alice in Chains, Motley Crue, Local H, The Datsuns, Enuff Z'nuff, Everclear, Extreme, Fountains of Wayne, Terrorvision, Weezer, Jason & the Scorchers, and Foo Fighters, among others.

    (end rant)

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  6. Mr. Clutch

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    Well I just ordered an ASUS, but I made sure it had Windows 7 and not Vista. Hopefully it won't happen to me.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    I have the Windows 7 upgrade disks, those were my next choice to trying the solution above.

    But I doubt you get anything more with Windows 7, all you will get are their recovery disks.....

    I called them and their answer was "take it back to factory settings" we don't guarantee anything else......

    I was like....uh...yeah...well........no...I want to just REPAIR the corrupt registry, and they had no option for that.

    The link above is for Win 7 too....apparently a lot of the notebooks are doing this now..

    Here is the article from the link:

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    If you're like most PC users, you probably got Windows Vista with a new PC or laptop. And if you're like 99% of the population, you get your new machines from one of the major manufacturers. Dell, Acer, HP, Toshiba, Lenovo, they all have one thing in common: they don't give you a real Windows Vista installation disc with your purchase. Instead, they bundle what they call a "recovery disc" (that's if you're lucky - otherwise you'll have a recovery partition instead) with your machine and leave it at that.

    It doesn't matter that you just paid a thousand dollars for a machine that comes with a valid Windows Vista license - your computer manufacturer just don't want to spend the money (or perhaps take on the responsibility) of giving you a Windows Vista installation DVD to accompany your expensive purchase.

    The problem is, with Windows Vista, the installation media serves more than one purpose. It's not just a way to get Windows installed, it's also the only way of recovering a borked installation. The Windows Vista DVD has a "recovery center" that provides you with the option of recovering your system via automated recovery (searches for problems and attempts to fix them automatically), rolling-back to a system restore point, recovering a full PC backup, or accessing a command-line recovery console for advanced recovery purposes.

    Microsoft seems to have realized this problem, and have thankfully made a recovery disc for this purpose. It contains the contents of the Windows Vista DVD's "recovery center," as we've come to refer to it. It cannot be used to install or reinstall Windows Vista, and just serves as a Windows PE interface to recovering your PC. Technically, one could re-create this installation media with freely-downloadable media from Microsoft (namely the Microsoft WAIK kit, a multi-gigabyte download); but it's damn-decent of Microsoft to make this available to Windows' users who might not be capable of creating such a thing on their own.

    NeoSmart Technologies is hosting a copy of the Windows Vista Recovery Disc for your convenience. It is a 120 MiB download, and in the standard ISO format.




    DD
     
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  8. The_Yoyo

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    AS soon as I can I am sooo gonna rep you again
     
  9. DaDakota

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    Cheap tricks.....aha....

    Still, this could help people with the same problem on notebooks.

    DD
     
  10. The_Yoyo

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    actually no DD so dont even try to get on your high horse

    its just a inside joke I have with Miguel
     
  11. DaDakota

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    What high horse?

    I was refering to Miguel making the Cheap trick song reference.

    What are you talking about?

    I put this thread up to help other Clutchfans that might have the same issue with a laptop they purchsed.

    What is going on here?

    DD
     
  12. lpbman

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    Thanks for the tip. I would like to pump www.ninite.com again for people who have new installs.

    DD, have you ever seen a fresh install with a fast ssd? 10-15 minutes... It is like broadband in the "I can't go back" dept.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Interesting. I'm not too computer savvy, I guess I'll have to make sure to keep everything backed up.
     
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    wow, you are just now noticing this?

    Every laptop I have seen in the last 8 years has been equipped with only a recovery disk instead of the normal standard WIndows install disk.


    ALSO

    reinstalling Office on the same computer multiple times *should* still count as one install. I assume you are referring to a multi-used license from MS for Office.

    IIRC, when you activate the product, it mates the serial number for that program with a special code that represents the hardware in that machine. As long as you are installing it on the same hardware from the first activation....you should be fine.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    I have always had extra copies of XP etc...and this was the first laptop I was forced to buy Vista.....


    Weird....maybe I have just installed it too many times.......4 so far.....are you sure it does that? I thought it just hit up MS on the internet and got the OK.

    How would MS know it was the same machine? I seem to recall having this issue before many years ago and had to call in to get activation approved.

    Maybe something has changed, I don't know.

    DD
     
  17. BEAT LA

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    This one is easy, if I liked you DD maybe I would give you the fix.

    I will anyways.

    Go to my computer, right click properties, click advanced tab and then click settings(the last one under startup and recovery). Uncheck automatically restart. badabing badaboom motha ****a.
     
  18. BEAT LA

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    I should have read your post. oh well
     
  19. Uprising

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    At staples, everything we sell doesn't come with restore disks except for Dell.

    The others have a partition, and if you want the disks you have to burn them. Same with desktops.

    You could always just make a repair disk, that is bootable if you just need to fix something.
     
  20. Master Baiter

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    He is exactly correct on how Office (and other Microsoft products as well) authenticates and registers with Microsoft. It uses an algorithm to build a code from unique identifiers within 5 or 6 different pieces of hardware that are in your computer. You are able to make slight changes to your hardware and it will continue to work, such as a hard drive swap. Other changes like a motherboard are not possible.

    If you have problems registering your products because of hardware changes or if you migrate to a new machine, you can call Microsoft and they will reset the registration on their end and you will be able to register the same product with the same code. Of course this is only possible with valid license keys.
     

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