Is anyone else worried how much Landry may cost us to keep? I think he had an incredible rookie season, and he could go on to become a truly great player. Other teams knowing that, and possibly having more $$$ to spend than the Rockets, may make a serious push to either get him, or cause us to spend more than we should on him. If I were a team who has a real need for him, I think I would offer up pretty decent money for him, knowing that I either get the player I want, or I drain the Rockets pockets just a little extra.
Landry is worth the MLE and the Rockets will be able to match any offer with the MLE. While it would be nice to get Landry cheaper, he'll deserve whatever he gets. I doubt a team makes an offer just to spoil the rockets as it prevents them from making a move while the rockets wait to match.
Example #1 of how we overvalue our own players. Landry is certainly NOT worth the MLE or close to it. Al Horford won't even be making MLE money until his fourth year in the league - and he was the 3rd pick in the draft AND he's better than Landry! This isn't a knock on Landry - he's a solid player. But he hasn't shown the ability to beat his man off the dribble, he hasn't shown a consistent jump shot nor a post up game. He shot such a high FG% because of Tmac's drives and assists. He's an above average finisher, but he is certainly no where near "MLE caliber" money, IMO. Though I do have a sinking suspicion is agent will be whispering in his ear how he deserves this and that much - I just pray all it takes is the LLE (which now seems a bit unlikely.) I said this in the other thread but I'll go ahead and repeat it here: If it's between keeping Landry or adding Maggette, I'm saying bye to Carl everyday of the week. With Scola being the better PF, I think Corey would have a greater impact on our team. Like I said though, it isn't anything against Landry - he's a solid player. I just pray he doesn't force the Rockets to lose out on someone that could put them over the top.
While Landry is definitely not worth the MLE (lets not forget he only has one year under his belt), he is definitely worth more than the LE. I think one of Morey's few mistakes was low balling Landry. Yeah, he low balled him because we actually gave up way more to get him, than he is actually being paid, but i'm sure he is not going to another team. If i remember right, his agent was very mad at how Morey and the Rockets management handled Landry's case last year. this might be pay back time
Many teams will shy away from offering the MLE to Landry, considering his poor late season performance and his gimpy knee. He'll certainly get more than the LLE, which is reserved for 12th men and over-the-hill veterans.
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We didn't lowball him. He's a second round pick, hence the 1-year deal. It's all the same to the second round picks.
Mid-lottery picks in their 2nd year would be getting LLE type money. That's what Landry is worth at most. Morey can't let this agent push him around.
I love Landry but we should trade him while his value is high. Package him and get us a legit 3rd star.
Isn't the LLE around 2 million per season? I can't understand how we 'lowballed' Landry 2nd round picks tend to get paid the minimum... If Carl is smart, he'll sign for 2 years at the LLE, and then look for the payday when we have his Bird rights.
While Landry was selected in the second round, he was the number 1 second draft pick. And speaking about other teams and their second round choices, Boston offered Glen Davis a 2 year deal and Gabe Pruitt a 3 year, both players were selected after Landry by the way. The Rockets also paid a million dollars and gave up a future draft pick (to Seattle) to get the draft pick used for Landry. They gave all that up and offered him $427,163, I understand it was partly due to Steve Francis signing, but still, if they had wised up then , this wouldn't be happen. Other than that, Morey has been great so far
Actually, 2nd round picks tend to get a 2 year deal. The reason is to avoid what's happening to landry now. The guy plays well, will ask for more than the 20% raise, and having to use part of the MLE to keep him.
a second year that's usually a team option. not having that second year option suggests a move by landry's agent.
it doesn't cost the rockets anything more to add on a team option for a non-guaranteed second year. not that team option benefits landry.
totally agree. surely Landry (or his agent) decided that they'd take an unsatisfactory 1 year deal to show what he could do, and then demand more in the next contract. Not a good sign.
Actually, Coming in as a Rookie, he didn't have really much negotiating position. The Rockets were pretty much here's the money. Take it or leave it. Go play in another league if you don't want it.
I hope we can work something out without losing much of the MLE. If he takes the LLE with another year (player option) that would be great. Gives him a shot at partial Bird rights and full Bird rights, and allows us to go after serious reinforcements with our MLE.
landry is worth right around the lle imo. no more, no less. if someone gives him close to or more than mle, we will just have to let him walk and find our next landry elsewhere or in the draft.
