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Knicks might not waive Houston, would rather he retire

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by emjohn, Aug 14, 2005.

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  1. emjohn

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    From The New York Post

    Would make sense on both sides: Knicks save even more money if he takes medical retirement versus a buyout and get the added bonus of waiving someone else like Penny, Houston avoids the shame of being waived. I think this is still a little iffy, considering how deluded Houston's been with the state of his knees. His knees are shot, and rehab isn't going to magically put cartilage back into them. He's looking at a cycle of rehab, playing for a month, and gong back on the IL for rehab again. If I were Isiah, I'd make this an ultimatum. Retire or we waive you on Monday.

    Evan
     
    #1 emjohn, Aug 14, 2005
  2. R0ckets03

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    Whats a "medical retirement" and how much does Houston still get? If he gets waived then he still gets his entire contract's worth right? If that is the case I would tell Isiah to bite my ass.
     
    #2 R0ckets03, Aug 14, 2005
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    There must already be an agreement between Houston and the Knicks for him to retire because they are making a huge gamble otherwise.
     
    #3 apostolic3, Aug 14, 2005
  4. Rocket River

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    Exactly
    Why would he retire and LOSE MONEY?

    Rocket River
     
    #4 Rocket River, Aug 14, 2005
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    The Knicks would prefer that Houston agree to a medical retirement, which would save them much more than just the luxury tax reduction of the amnesty rule. Houston would get every penny but insurance — not the Knicks — would pay 75 percent of Houston's $39.8M in salary , minus a 20 percent deductible .

    http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/36992/20050813/houston_safe__knicks_may_not_waive_h20/

    So it seems that it wouldn't really matter which way Houston goes, he'll get his 40M no matter what.
     
    #5 gucci888, Aug 14, 2005
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    He wouldn't lose money if he retired.
     
    #6 RocksMillenium, Aug 14, 2005
  7. Rocket River

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    thanks for the explaination

    He should retire and do SOMETHING for the team
    since he ain't done to much for them in the last few years

    One more question: If he decided to come back in a year or two
    how would that effect NY and him?

    Rocket River
    take one for the team . .esp when it don't cost you
     
    #7 Rocket River, Aug 14, 2005
  8. topfive

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    Man, that might just be the highlight of ANYone's NBA career:

    "Isiah... bite my ass!"
     
    #8 topfive, Aug 14, 2005
  9. dharocks

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    What's your opinion on this if he still wants to play basketball and is capable of passing a physical?
     
    #9 dharocks, Aug 14, 2005
  10. Rocket River

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    I say he should force them to waive him


    It is HIS decision . . .
    but if he wants to do what is BEST for the team . . .retire
    unfortunately
    most players thing it is best for the team that they be on it . .. even if
    their skills have diminished


    Rocket River
     
    #10 Rocket River, Aug 14, 2005
  11. T_in_Charlotte

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    Does anyone else see Zeke screwing this one up too?
     
    #11 T_in_Charlotte, Aug 14, 2005
  12. Rocket River

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    yea
    he should wave him and be done with it

    Rocket River
     
    #12 Rocket River, Aug 14, 2005
  13. superden

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    that's funny... the rule was named after houston, and then they dont waive him. aint that ironic.
     
    #13 superden, Aug 15, 2005
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    Kind of ironic this amnesty rule was given the nickname the "Allan Houston rule" and as it turns out, they might not even have to waive him after all.
     
    #14 baller4life315, Aug 15, 2005
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    Maybe it's me, but I don't see any shame in being waived. There will be some good players waived strictly for money reasons.
     
    #15 droxford, Aug 15, 2005
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    Is there an echo in here? One that occurs about a half hour after you say something?
     
    #16 JuanValdez, Aug 15, 2005
  17. foodworld

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    LMAO!

    If I'm not mistaken, the Knicks save more money by waiving Rose or JYD than Houston - and they certainly don't need both those guys.

    Plus, if he doesn't retire, H20 is a pretty juicy expiring contract to use in a trade next year, assuming Isiah wants to maintain his astronomical payroll.
     
    #17 foodworld, Aug 15, 2005
  18. Stevierebel

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    Since when has Rose been on the Knicks?
     
    #18 Stevierebel, Aug 15, 2005
  19. lalala902102001

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    I believe he's talking about Malik Rose.
     
    #19 lalala902102001, Aug 15, 2005
  20. Stevierebel

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    ahhh. I forgot about him. Carry on.
     
    #20 Stevierebel, Aug 15, 2005
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