When Kirk played at Utah, he played some Point guard. Kirk says he is a PG XXXXhoops: Tonight you played a little point guard. You played some point in college. How comfortable are you at the point – can you play point in the NBA? Kirk Snyder: Very very comfortable. I am a point guard, I am a true point guard, and I am a leader out there. But I am big and you got to let some small guys get in there too. XXXXhoops: Hey I am all for that. What position or positions are you the most comfortable playing? Kirk Snyder: Probably the 1 and the 2. I really like handling the ball. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Could he help out at Backup PG, and let Head play the shooting guard on offesne and switch on defense? DD
well, i like that idea. but jvg probaly tried that in practice and it jsut didn't work. thats probaly why jvg never tried it in a game.
Like I said in the other thread, his ball-handling is worse than Head's. He's got 20-25 foot handles. He can drive to the basket reliably from the perimeter. He can't bring the ball up under pressure. Besides, can you imagine him running the offense. When he's on the floor, waiting at the top of the key, the offense really gets messy. Glen Davis played PG in high school. Maybe we should draft him to play back-up point.
But isn't the role of our backup PG to get the ball over the half court line and into Tmac's hands ? So, you guys are saying he can't do it under pressure.....neither can Luther. DD
I can understand Luther Head role to bring the ball across halfcourt to T-Mac. But I've seen him struggle to do that so many times. Anyone can do that without pressure, but only Rafer and JL3 could do such a thing under pressure. I don't trust Snyder as a ball handler yet. When I look at PG, I look for a floor general, and Snyder doesn't fit the bill.
Lots of NBA players have/had delusions of point-guard grandeur. Ralph Sampson believed he could play the point. Doesn't make it true in real life.
Ask ourselves the question "Will JVG put Snyder in PG duties the rest of the games left and any playoff games?" and we all know the answer to this thread. In the future, IF he improves his ballhandling skills to where it's an option to JVG, this lineup is a formidable defensive lineup Snyder Mac Battier Hayes Yao reminds me of the second 3peat Bulls team where everyone was long and athletic
It's worth a try playing KSnyder on back PG and let Head slide on the gunner position. With one step against the defender, we will be seeing a lot of strong finish and a highlight dunk on Kirk! GO ROCKETS!
Agreed. He doesn't have the necessary handles and he certainly doesn't seem to have the leadership role on the team.
OMG dont even suggest that... you dont want him to mess up even more do you? He has talent, but on this team, he is just a role player, and if let the game come to him, like how chuck gets open for tmac, he might get as many looks as chuck. that one play where yao reposted and was waiting for the pass, but kirk decided to go baseline was ugh. i mean if yao is single teamed by aaron williams, why would you not pass to him? instead he tried to create for himself and causes a turnover. have you ever seen chuck try to create his own shot? or even Juwan for that matter? A vet like Juwan, who has already proved himself in this league, does what JVG wants him to do.
I think Yao should be our point guard because he can see over people and he'll be taller than most point guards in the NBA. Plus he'd look awesome dribbling full speed on a fast break, going behind the back and then giving a no look pass to our new starting center: Luther Head.
So you're telling me JLIII has the leadership role on the team! I'm not syaing start Kirk at the 1 but 8-10 mins Rafer is not in the game, let him try it. It can't be worse than having Luther trying to bring the ball up! I'm not expecting any leadership or floor general instincts from a back-up 1 who we all know won't play more than 5 mins at that position and who's onlly job is to bring the ball up during press and set up T-Mac.
Why don't we do this ( if we're not doing it already )... Have Tracy backup the point while Rafer's resting/sucking, and then when Rafer comes back out again, take Tracy out, leave Rafer at the point so Tracy can get his rest, and use Luther as the two along with the usual starting lineup. So basically: Starting 7-8 minutes: Rafer, Tracy, Shane, Chuck, Yao Next rotation: Tracy, Luther, Shane, Juwan, Deke/Jake Slightly changed starting rotation: Rafer, Luther, Shane, Chuck, Yao 4th quarter crunch time: Back to the original starters People say Tracy can't be our backup PG because it'll exhaust him, but he can still rest with Luther backing him up. I like Luther as a 2.
I tell you what is laughable. And that is watching the basketball drag Luther around the court all night long. I swear I am watching the third graders when he is dribbling the ball. I keep waiting for him to dribble it under the basket then squat down and try to fire it up to the rim from his waist. I think I understand the concept of Snyder at the point, in the half court set. His game is a quick first step, penetration and the finish. If he can get the ball at the top and still have his dribble, and if he got a screen up there, odds are he could make some hay in the lane. However, that doesn't mean he can handle the ball against the press. But, that doesn't mean he shouldn't play at the top. Can you imagine McGrady having to break the press by himself with Luther running at the off guard and Rafer on the bench? See, right now, McGrady is effectively the point guard offensively, which I believe is a long term mistake. He has to handle and initiate practically all the time. But McGrady couldn't handle the ball consistently against the press by himself. What he does is take the ball as far as he can, then look over the defense, and throw it over the top. I don't see why Synder couldn't develop the same thing. And I'd rather a guy like Snyder be able to do it, then throw it over the top to a guy like McGrady, then McGrady do it and have to throw it over the top to a guy like Luther. Snyder is saying he's a point because he knows he is at his best with the ball in his hands while he is on the move. I'd like to see Van Gundy seriously experiment with Snyder at the 1 in preseason to see if his court vision and passing could be improved on. Right now, he doesn't see the court and he doesn't pass well. I think some of that is due to the fact that he is trying to establish himself as a player in the league and he is trying to make a play every time he gets in the game instead of relaxing and letting the game come to him. He is doing better with that lately but I'd still like to see if he could develop further and become effective enough to create off the penetration that he gets. One thing is for sure. I do not want to see Luther trying to chase the ball into the paint and then either finish or distribute. Kirk Snyder is much more of a point guard than Luther Head is.
