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Kerry Uses the F-word

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  1. rimrocker

    rimrocker Member

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    Hypocrites. Criticizing Kerry after Bush himself says "F*** Saddam, we're taking him out." Which is more profane?
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    White House Criticizes Kerry's Profanity
    Sun Dec 7, 3:01 PM ET Add Politics - AP to My Yahoo!


    By JENNIFER C. KERR, Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON - John Kerry (news - web sites) used profane language to assess President Bush (news - web sites)'s Iraq (news - web sites) policy, and Bush's chief of staff said Sunday the Democratic presidential candidate was out of line.



    The Massachusetts senator uttered a profanity in an interview in the latest Rolling Stone magazine to express his dismay over Bush's handling of Iraq.


    When asked in the interview about the success of rival candidate Howard Dean (news - web sites), whose anti-war message has resounded with supporters, Kerry responded: "When I voted for the war, I voted for what I thought was best for the country. Did I expect Howard Dean to go off to the left and say, `I'm against everything?' Sure. Did I expect George Bush to f--- it up as badly as he did? I don't think anybody did."


    The expletive drew a rebuke from White House, which suggested an apology might be in order.


    "That's beneath John Kerry," the president's chief of staff, Andrew Card, said on CNN's "Late Edition."


    "I'm very disappointed that he would use that kind of language," Card said. "I'm hoping that he's apologizing at least to himself, because that's not the John Kerry that I know."


    The Kerry campaign said the Massachusetts senator had no regrets.


    "John Kerry saw combat up close, and he doesn't mince words when it comes to politicians who put ideological recklessness ahead of American troops," said spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter. "I think the American people would rather Card and the rest of the White House staff spend more time on fixing Bush's flawed policy in Iraq than on Sen. Kerry's language."


    On the 62nd anniversary of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Kerry laid a wreath in remembrance at the Navy base in Coronado, Calif., where he trained before shipping out to Vietnam, where he was wounded and was awarded the Silver Star and Bronze Star with combat V. Kerry, a swift boat commander in the war, was joined by his daughter, Vanessa, and two crew mates who served with him in Southeast Asia.


    During his CNN appearance, Card also opined, albeit briefly, on the front-runner in race for the Democratic nomination.


    "Howard Dean is a good governor in Vermont who is no longer governor," said Card. "So he would not be my choice for president of the United States."
     
  2. MadMax

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    1. who cares?

    2. if asked...and i were in the position of andrew card..i would have answered that question the exact same way.
     
  3. edwardc

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    wow he dropped the f-bomb there should be more word used to say what some think about the war that Pres Bush has *uck up :rolleyes:
     
  4. basso

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    When did Bush say this, or are you speaking metaphorically?
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    Very presidential.
     
  6. rimrocker

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    Time Magazine via the CNN website... Title and relevent paragraphs follow:

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/24/timep.saddam.tm/

    How did the U.S. end up taking on Saddam? The inside story of how Iraq jumped to the top of Bush's agenda -- and why the outcome there may foreshadow a different world order

    "F___ Saddam. we're taking him out." Those were the words of President George W. Bush, who had poked his head into the office of National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice.

    It was March 2002, and Rice was meeting with three U.S. Senators, discussing how to deal with Iraq through the United Nations, or perhaps in a coalition with America's Middle East allies. Bush wasn't interested. He waved his hand dismissively, recalls a participant, and neatly summed up his Iraq policy in that short phrase.

    The Senators laughed uncomfortably; Rice flashed a knowing smile. The President left the room. A year later, Bush's outburst has been translated into action, as cruise missiles and smart bombs slam into Baghdad.
     
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    I should note that Bush has also called a repoter an "a**hole" and used the word "p***y" in answering a question about what he and his dad talk about when they are alone. And then there was this:

    You no-good f***ing son of a b****, I will never f***ing forget what you wrote.

    -George W. Bush, to journalist Al Hunt in front of his 4-year old daugher, 1987.
     
  8. thadeus

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    Judging from the character of American voters (in general), I'm guessing a few well-placed f-words will actually help a candidate.

    Don't let this information get out though - because then they'll all be doing it.
     
  9. JuanValdez

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    Bush says **** to 3 senators and Rice while Kerry says **** in an interview meant for publication in a wide-circulation magazine. The two examples are a bit different because of the audience. Even so, I don't care a **** about either of them -- why can't politicians cuss?
     
  10. ima_drummer2k

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    Clearly, this is all Bush's fault.
     
  11. basso

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    The difference, of course, is that Bush did it in private, referring to america's enimies. Kerry's was for attribution in a nation publication, and referred to the president of the United States. Not that i'm offended or care, but your "hypocrites" charge is off-base RR.
     
  12. B-Bob

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    I mean no offense, but a lot of these politicians are completely deluded, removed from reality frat boys at heart. Seems like we could agree on that.
     
  13. rimrocker

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    The difference as I see it is that when Bush uses the F word he's already decided on a policy of war even while he's lying and saying war can be averted. His quote shows contempt for the people and institutions of this country. He's more like Nixon all the time.
     
  14. Rocketman95

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    The reporter thing was not in private. Calling someone an ******* is worse than saying someone ****ed something up, IMO. He didn't call Bush a ****-up, but even then, the response by the White House would be hypocritical.
     
  15. El_Conquistador

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    Of course the *enormous* difference here is that Kerry dropped the f-bomb in print -- not in the heat of the moment, but in print. Not only that, but when given the chance to apologize, he refused. This to me is inexcusable.
     
  16. GladiatoRowdy

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    How can I take this seriously when just BEING a Democrat is inexcusable to you?
     
  17. outlaw

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    It's not like he wrote the article. It was an interview so he may have been in the "heat of the moment" himself.

    Did Bush ever apologize for the reporter incident?
     
  18. RocketMan Tex

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    Has Bush ever uhpawligized for anything?
     
  19. Baqui99

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    Props to Kerry for telling it like it is. Since when do we chastize public figures for cussing. It's not he got head from an intern.
     
  20. rrj_gamz

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    1) Who gives a F*ck...

    2) What's wrong with dropping the f*cking F-Bomb every once in a while...

    For one thing, it's human nature to speak your mind and yes I know how some of you leftist may feel "oh, that's un-presidential", but you know what, I'd rather have him than some other p***y in office being agreeable and not really sticking to what is right for this country...
     

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