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Kerry Fights Back

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  1. Batman Jones

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    Liking him more all the time. Would love to see Bush debate him on international affairs. This is from the Washington Post

    Kerry Lashes Out at Republican Criticisms

    By NEDRA PICKLER
    The Associated Press
    Friday, April 4, 2003; 5:31 PM


    WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry lashed out at top congressional Republicans on Friday after they assailed him for saying the United States, like Iraq, needs a regime change.

    "The Republicans have tried to make a practice of attacking anybody who speaks out strongly by questioning their patriotism," the Massachusetts senator said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "I refuse to have my patriotism or right to speak out questioned. I fought for and earned the right to express my views in this country."

    Kerry, a decorated Vietnam War veteran, backed a congressional resolution last fall giving President Bush the authority to use force to oust Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, but he repeatedly has criticized the president for failing to give diplomacy more time.

    In a speech Wednesday in Peterborough, N.H., Kerry said Bush so alienated allies prior to the U.S.-led war against Iraq that only a new president can rebuild damaged relationships with other countries.

    "What we need now is not just a regime change in Saddam Hussein and Iraq, but we need a regime change in the United States," Kerry said.

    Several leading Republicans said Kerry's comments were inappropriate with U.S. troops fighting in Iraq. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., said the statement amounted to "petty, partisan insults launched solely for personal political gain."

    House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, called Kerry's words "desperate and inappropriate." Said House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., "Once this war is over, there will be plenty of time for the next election."

    Kerry dismissed the attacks, telling an Atlanta political gathering Thursday that patriotism is not mutually exclusive with questioning the war. One day later, he delivered an even sharper rebuke to the GOP complaints.

    "If they want to pick a fight, they've picked a fight with the wrong guy," Kerry said in a telephone interview.

    The lawmaker said this round of charges and countercharges is not the first time Republicans have made a "phony issue of patriotism." He cited last year's campaign against former Georgia Democratic Sen. Max Cleland, who lost both legs and an arm in the Vietnam War.

    As part of a broader GOP campaign, Bush and other Republicans criticized Senate Democrats for holding up legislation to create a Department of Homeland Security over a labor provision, suggesting that the delay reflected weakness on national security. Republican Saxby Chambliss unseated the first-term Cleland in the November elections.

    "I watched what they did to Max Cleland last year," Kerry said. "Shame on them for doing it then and shame on them for trying to do it now."

    Kerry also mentioned recent GOP criticism of Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., who said Bush's diplomatic efforts had failed "miserably" because he didn't secure a U.N. resolution for the war.

    Following a speech to the New York State United Teachers convention in Washington, Kerry said, "I'm not going to let the likes of Tom DeLay question my patriotism, which I fought for and bled for in order to have the right to speak out."

    Neither Hastert, Frist nor DeLay served in the military. In response to Kerry, DeLay spokesman Jonathan Grella said, "There's a difference between loving your country and leading it. Demanding regime change in America isn't unpatriotic - it's vile."

    Kerry said Republicans have no right to criticize him when they are cutting funds to veterans hospitals.

    Kerry's comments come on the eve of a trip to Iowa, where rival Howard Dean's strong anti-war stance has played well with the state's Democrats. Dean also has been critical of Bush and Kerry, suggesting that the senator waffled in his position on the Iraq war.

    Dean also addressed the New York Teachers group Friday and said although he probably would not have used the words that Kerry did, "I have not criticized Senator Kerry for that, nor am I going to.

    "It certainly would be unusual for me to line up with Tom DeLay, and I don't intend to start now," said the former Vermont governor.

    Kerry's arrival on Sunday in Iowa also comes as another presidential primary rival, Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, takes part in a town-hall meeting.
     
  2. Oski2005

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    Wow, I like what I'm hearing. Don't know if he's the right man for the job, but I'm glad he's telling people like DeLay to stick it.
     
  3. MacBeth

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    I don't know what this guy is talking about...Whoever heard of someone speaking out strongly against this war and having their patriotism attacked for expressing their objection!?
     
  4. X-PAC

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    Kerry is an interesting candidate. I wish I knew more about him on the issues.
     
  5. BobFinn*

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    Is anyone else alarmed by this growing trend to bash anyone that speaks out against this war, or the Bush administration in general?
     
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    Yes.
     
  8. MacBeth

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    Why don't you move to France, you damned Commie...I'm all for people speaking their mind, but not when they say things I don't like. You are clearly a Saddam lover...." growing trend to bash anyone that speaks out"...:rolleyes: Only when they speak out in support of killing innocent Iraqi civilians...Don't you know that American soldiers died in WWII!?!? Are you too blind to see how that means that Bush is right here!?!?
     
  9. X-PAC

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    I appreciate the links. Kerry struck me by the remark he made in rebuttal to the Republicans critique of his anti-war stance.

    Unfortunately one thing you won't find running for the democratic ticket is a pro-lifer. After checking the links John Edwards appeared to be a fairly formidable candidate respectively. I also didn't know Sharpton was pro-choice given his church background. :eek: I guess politics will do that do you. :)

    Again thanks BobFinn*. I'll stop here and see how much this Rocket/76er game I can bear without going insane. :mad:
     
  10. Cohen

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    I've heard Kerry speak some and was interested in hearing much more from him. I've mentioned as much to a number of people I know...but his 'regime' comment embarasses me somewhat for bringing up his name so often. Citicism of the War or Bush is ok, but to make a quote like that get's used in other parts of the world and does not help our country.

    At least wait till the d*mn war is over. It won't be an issue overseas then.
     
  11. Batman Jones

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    I really think people are overreacting to the semantics here. Of course he thinks we should have "regime change." That's the whole reason he was in New Hampshire giving the speech. His entire purpose right now is to enact regime change. Would those who are so shocked by this prefer that the presidential campaign be put on hold entirely until after the war? That candidates shouldn't be visiting primary states, giving speeches, raising money and making their positions and desire to be president known? That would be convenient. He's running for president. That's all. Welcome to the new PC, courtesy of the GOP.
     
  12. Htownhero

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    The war in Iraq? The war on terrorism? The war on drugs? Hell, there will always be some sort of war going on.
     
  13. No Worries

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    "If they want to pick a fight, they've picked a fight with the wrong guy," Kerry said

    This is gonna get good, real good :)
     
  14. KellyDwyer

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    Settle down, John, we're going to need you in a few months.

    Don't blow your load just yet ...
     
  15. ROXTXIA

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    I need to find out more about Kerry. I don't know if anyone can unseat George W. "the Unelected President Thank You Katherine Harris and Antonin Scalia" Bush, but I like that he won't back down. I guess he can't, if he wants to be serious about running.

    Too bad this war is so popular. Man, the Administration really has the public believing that Iraq was behind 9/11. Meanwhile, funds are drying up for the Dept of Education and other domestic issues are being completely ignored so that this President can secure his popularity by beating up on, probably, the 25th-most evil dictator in the world (I'd have to compile an actual list, that number might be slightly off).
     
  16. rrj_gamz

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    He's an idiot...

    Again, wrong place, wrong time...:rolleyes:
     
  17. Refman

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    Ladies and Gentlemen...we have just seen the Democratic spin unveiled.

    We all knew they were going to find a way to bash Bush without condeming the war.

    (Not even worth the rolleyes smilie.)
     
  18. Mr. Clutch

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    So can Republicans criticize Kerry, is it un PC because he served in the military?
     
  19. Clutch

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    Presidential Candidate Calls Administration "Regime" For Political Gain, Demands He Not Be Criticized. News at 11.
     
  20. treeman

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    The sad thing for Dems is that Kerry is probably the best candidate that they have to offer. Dean could never win a national election - no solidly antiwar candidate can. And Kerry ain't no Clinton...

    Unless Bush decides to start throwing acid at babies instead of kissing them at rallies, Kerry doesn't have a chance.
     

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