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JVG sitting Yao for his poor play a few games ago has made a difference

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by forenzi, Jan 25, 2004.

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  1. forenzi

    forenzi Member

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    I think we are all seeing the making of a new dominant force in the nba. Yao has really stepped up his game since the game jvg sat him down in a game where he just plain sucked. Yao has obvisouly stepped up his game in the past 7 games and I think Yao is actually beginning to get it. He has probably learned more about what he is capable of doing in the last few games than what he had in his entire professional basketball career. I could be jumping the gun by assuming this after a few good games but Yaos potential has been revealed more than ever in these past few games.
     
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    couldn't agree more

    all about a living and learning process for yao ming and the rockets.
     
  3. kryten128

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    Just because Phil Jackson farted explosively before Michael Jordan exploded for 60 points doesn't necessarily mean that Phil's flatulence deserves credit for Michael's performance.

    Give Yao some credit for finally starting to fulfill his potential.
     
  4. Rule0001

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    see foolish jordon was never put in doghouse

    yao was temporarily in doghouse and after many attempts at starvation by van gundy, he started to play better :)
     
  5. London'sBurning

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    I think it was more because of Haywood's hard foul on Yao that's brought this change in physical play from him.
     
  6. Clutch

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    He's definitely become more aggressive or more confident (or both)

    Yao's numbers over the last 7 games:
    22.9 points on 64.6% shooting (62-96), 85.7% from the free throw line (36-42), 11.3 boards, 2.0 blocks, 0.4 assists, 1.9 turnovers

    Rockets were 6-1 in those games.

    Yao's numbers in the 7 games before that:
    12.4 points on 52.4% shooting (33-63), 80.8% from the free throw line (21-26), 7.6 boards, 1.0 blocks, 0.9 assists, 2.3 turnovers

    Rockets were 4-3 in those games.
     
  7. fietguy

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    the real difference is when rockets as a team finally found how to pass to the center when he is fronted...

    ie. from the wing, swing the ball to a forward either cato or mo (mo is better at this), and then the forward gets a much better angle to pass to the center than if he were on the wing because of the front...

    they either didn't do this enough or they didn't even attempt the lob...

    i saw Yao start to establish good low position back in november, but the results were not there, because the team had not adjusted to making that pass...and that was all the difference...
     
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    If this is how it works then Pike should be putting up Pejaesque numbers when he gets back
     
  9. francis 4 prez

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    i still say that's it. he had been posterized more times than we could count, he's been beaten mercilessly in the post, but getting knocked on his ass finally seemed to make him decide enough was enough. he scored 14 points i think in the quarter right after it happened and hasn't looked back.

    lots of centers are real pissed at brendan haywood right about now.


    oh, and he got single teamed twice and we learned to get the ball into him better. but as usual, when you're not doing good, it's not the people around you, it starts with the man in the mirror, and yao finally realized it and started playing like he can.
     
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    Damn Yao. His assists has actually decreased in the last five games. I smell the 'trade Yao' posts are coming.
     
  11. yipengzhao

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    if you're shooting 65%, why pass?
     
  12. kryten128

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    3 assists over the past 7 games is absolutely unacceptable. :eek:

    I say we trade his ass to the Miami Heat (the only team in the league to average less assists-per-game than the Rockets), where he rightfully belongs. :D
     
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    You know, I remember a poster saying he's not convinced unless Yao have some break out games because he's points were in the low 20s and hight 10s. I thought Yao saw that post and started responding to it. :)
    Go Rockets!
     
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    Did you notice the trend coincident with the way he was used by JVG, namely more high post plays, mid-range pop ups, instead of solely physical low post-up plays?

    When Yao was forced to play low post game primarily, it was much easier for the defense to figure out how to cut off the post-feed. When the Rockets pulled him away from inside, the whole offense looked alive, the passes were more accurate. JVG made the similar comments twice in the post-game conference that "Yao has been more assertive, but it has more to do with the way we pass the ball better"

    Yao wore out quickly when he was forced to play PRIMARILY low post game before, which greatly affected his playing & his confidence. It's tough to gain any confidence when you were forced into doing something you are not comfortable with. He truly blossomed when he was allowed to use his strength, make more mid-range shots. That not only increased his confidence, but also made the defense to make adjustment, move away from the paint, which made it easier for him to get deep post-position.

    In summary, I think the real turning point is JVG finally adapted a different approach with Yao, which got the results he wanted indirectly. I'm applauded JVG for his flexibility.


    --daoshi
     
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    F4Prez, the haywood point is a good argument, but your man in the mirror analogy is a little too much cliche and not applicable to what really happened, yao does not bring the ball up, the ball is not in his hands right away, it is upon the guards to give it to him, and give it to him in spots that are good...mo does it better than cato, MJ and JJ does it better than francis
     
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    for real, that assist to turnover ratio is horrible :).


    but your man in the mirror analogy is a little too much cliche and not applicable to what really happened

    yeah it is. yao finally decided to do something about "not getting position" and being aggressive to the point his teammates could get it to him, whether on the first or second pass. instead of being open for a split second and then everyone complaining he didn't get the pass he's going to the place where the ball can get to him. and then when he gets it he's killing people. other factors may come into play, but the biggest is yao finally deciding to do something about it like great players are supposed to.

    jvg finally letting yao shoot outside has probably been the next biggest thing.
     
  17. Pat

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    I don't know if this is in the Phil Jackson farting/Michael Jordan scoring 60 category, but...

    Pat Ewing has been working with Yao, Yoa playing much better.



    More bad news, ex Jazz Mark Jackson is really helping hte Rockets out.


    Make the madness stop!!
     
  18. forenzi

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    expect miamis van gundy to triple team Yao tonight hopefully Yao will find the open man and get his assists
     
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    Wasn't there a thread not even a week ago with people whining about Yao's assist/turnover ratio?
     
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    Nicely said Daoshi. Yao and JVG both made excellent adjustments. Now he looks to shoot that 18 footer every time he touches the ball. I LOVE it. Before he would strictly catch the ball there to pass. Now, he is in that shoot it phase. He's even shooting 20 footers:eek:
     

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