http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...ug=cnnsi-morethananumber&prov=cnnsi&type=lgns excerpt: "The good news: Kobe's 81 proves that the NBA's emphasis on freeing up offenses and taking away the slogging, down-and-dirty physicality of the game has worked, and that a talented offensive player can shake himself free to riddle defenses. That's how it used to be before NBA coaches began spending 18 hours a day drawing up scheme defenses." When I was reading this paragraph of a cnnsi article, I had a thought that JVG is not the right coach for any NBA team given the new no-hand-check rule changes. This is not to say JVG is not a good coach. His record in the pre-rule-change era was impeccable. However, now time has changed, either he changes his coaching style or we need to find someone who is more offensive-minded like Mike D'Antoni of the Suns. I think we should let JVG play out this season, if he still keeps himself to his defensive way, we need a new coach. We should also trade away our defensive minded players for the offensive types. What do you think?
Were you not watching the second half of last season? JVG can do offense. Though, it seems to me he does schemes that work very well when executed correctly but completely fall to pieces if execution isn't precise.
Oh GOOD LORD, now we've been through this before. The Rockets have no problem scoring when everyone is healthy. See 2nd half of last year. See T-Mac's stat line the last 4 games. This myth that JVG can't coach offense has been debunked in this forum time and time again.
Show me the last NBA champion that didn't have one of the top defenses in the league and then I will concede this point to you.
The rockets are getting better over the last 4 games and that will continue tonight vs the Timberwolves. We will be 16-26 after tonight and then go to Miami on a roll and with Yao back we have a great shot at beating the Heat to. Afterall Miami isnt really on a role this season. Go Rockets!!!
i heard doug collins on TV last night, and it made me realize that, Riley and his coaching tree are dinosaurs in light of new rules
T-Mac's stat line has nothing to do with JVG's coaching. If you watch rocket ball, you see when everyone else has the ball, it is strict and following a play. T-Mac gets it and it is just basketball. I am not sure if it is the new rules or just the team make-up, but the healthy team we had before doesn't fit into JVG's style. DA, Rafer, Stro all play well in uptempo offenses. Does anyone remember those first few games? We went down to Yao every possession which lead to everyone standing around. JVG plays ball control offense unless T-Mac is in the game dominating the ball. Just like Larry Brown. Not saying it is a bad thing, just saying that if you don't have a strong defensive team like Detroit and SA, that really doesn't work. It is best to get the offense rolling. That is just my opinion, but I could be wrong.
kobe scored 81 because A) he is one othe greatest scorers in nba history and B) he was playing a bad toronto team who barely attempted to guard him. i think that had minimal to do with the rule changes in the nba. defense with a balanced offense still wins in this league, see the san antonio spurs and the detroit pistons. van gundy is a great coach when he has healthy players.
I agree, especially concerning our max contract player Yao. JVG is the wrong coach for Yao. Yao doesn't excel parked on the block. Yao doesn't excel chasing guards on the three point line and diving back to the post, and Yao doesn't excel in the fast break. JVG is not going to change who he is, and Yao isn't going to change who he is. To win big, more than a playoff round or two, we need Yao to be all he can be.Yao needs a new coach that can use his skill set - brains, court vision, shooting, size. He's not Ben Wallace. He's not Dikembe Mutumbo. It's stupid to try and force him to be a back-to-the-basket, low-post banger. You do that with bad offensive players. Every other talented big man in the league gets to use a face-up game except Yao. To excel in the post, you have to be quick and have great feet, like Hakeem, or explosive power and brute strength, like Shaq, Barkley, or now, Amare. Yao doesn't have that skill set. He's slow and get tired easy. Use him smarter. Yao needs a new coach. The team needs Yao to be a star - a superstar - to win it all, because he's sucking up all the team's cap space. We can't get to the finish line if he's just an "OK" player, and the rest of the team, is by necessity going to be just "OK' players. Yao needs to be able to win games all by himself, on his star power, with Tmac out. That star power will make the difference in a finals match. Yao didn't win any games with Tmac out. That should tell you things have to change. The strategy wasn't good enough. With Tmac out JVG wasn't able to win with Yao; he wasn't even able to get Yao control of the game, to make him a legitimate threat. That is the #1 problem with JVG. He could win with the Wallaces or Duncan and Mohammed up front, I'm sure. I don't think he can win with Yao. Yao isn't that guy. He is who he is. We'd better figure out how to use that. On top of that, I'll just note I personally detest all the Riley coaches, and their abortion of a game. It's dumbed down from the Daley Pistons attack, because NY didn't have the horses to play real ball with the Pistons or the Bulls or the Celtics. Yao is more valuable than JVG. End of story.
pasox2 is a just plain wrong again. not playing yao in the low post would be ths ultimate stupidity. you think players guarding yao would rather defend him in the high post or in the low post? do you think nba coaches would rather defend yao in the high post or in the low post? yao shot 55% last year. hes an 83% free throw shooter. why would you want to position yao away from where hes going to get fouled. i mean van gundy has his faults, but playing yao in the low post is so basic and im flabbergasted that anyone thinks playing him in the high post maximizes his skills. what did he shoot in his rookie year and how many free throws a game did he attempt? go back to ballroom dancing pasox2 and leave the hoops to real hoopsters.
Here's the most I can say about JVG given the # of injuries: very few people still contend that JVG is a great coach. The debate has shifted to whether he should be fired or whether he's a "good enough" coach. That shift is significant.
i don't believe so. tracy mcgrady, yao ming, and a stable of veteran role players all capable of hitting a 3 and passing well can play offense. jvg just got the hell out of the way. we saw what happened when he tried to run things for the first 22 games last year (before the little talk with tmac). not pretty. jvg can do defense and preparation. offense ain't his thing.
I am working very hard on my dancing, thanks for your support. I know we'll do well this year. Your arguement presumes Yao getting fouled. Does that happen enough? Is he on the line a lot? I must have missed that. I remember people hacking at him with no call, while he picks up tick-tack fouls on the other end. Maybe you inhabit an alternate reality, where Yao shoots a lot of foul shots. You admit Yao is a good shooter. You want 4 guys with bad shots and 1 guy with a good shot (if he gets the ball, at the right time,and doesn't get stripped), instead of 5 guys with good shots? Are you sure? You say opposing coaches don't want a slow, unbalanced guy to fight for the ball against a collapsing defense that shuts down other options? Are you sure? Maybe you have never seen a dominant player in the high post. Yao is made to deal and shoot. No one can stop that, if he is at the right box on the free throw line. They cannot defend it. Tmac on the opposite side can drive or shoot. They can both hit cutters or shooter off a curl. I cannot understand how anyone coaching would decide to jam up the works and force the game to grind to a halt, prematurely wearing his limited energy in the process.
