jumpball reset clock to 5 rule?

look under changes to rules for 2003-2004

http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_history.html

 

There's no such rule. As far as I know, the shot clock remains the same if the original team that had possession wins the tip. So if a jumpball is called with 2secs on the shot clock, they'll have 2secs to shoot should they win the tip. And if the other team gets the tip, the shot clock resets.

 

I checked the official rules it is in there but i think it is a rule that needs to be changed because it actually penalizes the defense for making a good play

 

btw: it is Rule #7, Section IV (e)

here

http://www.nba.com/media/rule_book_2006-07.pdf

 

That's disrespect to the defense. So if I force a jumpball with one second on the clock(which would be an amazing defensive/hustle play) even though I have the disadvantage in height and athleticism(assuming I force a jumpball with Lebron) therefore giving me no chance to win the tip, and they win the tip, they'll have an additional 5secs to run a play instead of the one second that was originally there.

-There was no change of possession, so the clock shouldn't have been reset.
-When a ball is tipped out of bounds by the defense, the shot clock remains the same as long as it is ruled that the opposing team didn't have possession.
-(scenario)If I have the ball with one second left on the shot clock, and a player is playing good D on me with his hands straight up, I can "shoot" the ball into his hand to make it look like a blocked shot but in truth I would be intentionally forcing a jumpball to give us a chance of getting a better shot with 5 extra seconds instead of launching the hopeless prayer.

 

it's MUCH better than the previous rule. Previously, it was reset to 24-seconds. Then they changed that to keep it the same or 14-seconds (whichever is greater).

This new rule is much better.

 

This was a fair Thread. I was surprised because I did not know of the rule change, which IMHO, stinks.

 

The previous rule had the shot clock remain the same. The 14seconds is if a foul was called with less than 14 on the shot clock. The shot clock used to always remain the same on a jumpball, unless possession is changed.

 

umm, the previous rule would have changed the clock to 14-seconds. The previous rule was worse. The rule before that treated all jump balls as change of possession, resetting to full 24 seconds.

I know because we argued this a LONG time again when Cuttino made a "boneheaded" play on a jump ball that the Rockets retained as the offensive team. Cuttino didn't realize the clock reset to 24 seconds and thought only 3 seconds were remaining, so he shot the ball immediately.

This BBS trashed Cuttino for that, like anyone knew the rule reset to 24 seconds.

 

Nevermind, I just saw it. These rules are truly disrespectful to a defense. This is making me prefer alternate possessions. I wonder if the offensive team keeps the ball on alternate possession, does the clock get reset.

 

that's not true dude. They reset to 14.

here look at this

http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_7.html?nav=ArticleList

that is from 2001-2002

 

just read this. excuse for posting more proof.

btw: I always remembered it as you did until the Cuttino play I described. And said the very same thing as you did.

 

Funny. Last night, I still thought the 14 second reset rule was still in effect. I was screaming my head off. You got LeBron James on his back on the ground with only 3 seconds left on the shot clock. You surround him, but don't tie him up!!! I know it's all instinct and hard to train oneself in clock awareness, but that would be an awesome move if the D had just left LeBron surrounded on the floor with 3 seconds left.

Then I noticed the clock didn't reset right away, so I was like "cool, they changed the rule", then it went to 5 seconds, and that turned out to suck. I already posted in the other thread, Rafer on Hughes just sucks...for the love of good basketball, never ever ever put Rafer on any decent player 6'4" and taller (yes, I know Huges was PG, but the Rockets have played big ball before with Snyder at the point in the first Miami game because they didn't want Rafer on Wade).

Anyhow, it's a hard thing to do, but late in the game, if the offensive player is on his back and you have him surrounded and there's only a few ticks left on the shot clock...Don't Tie Him Up!!!

 

Old, intellectual I didn't know much of this, apparently. I thought the old rule was the O-team had whatever the shot clock said remained if they won the tip.

Win by 10 and forget all rule changes!

 

This game was not won or lost on this one rule. If he already had the game in hand, this would be a non-factor.

 

Even though the rule is outdated, and needs to go (since you really are penalizing the defense for making a good defensive play), knowing that the rule is out there makes swallowing last night's loss a little easier to bear. We played lousy for 3 quarters, and had a good 4th....now let's build on that 4th quarter.