Jonathan Turley, GWU Professor: We are at a constitutional tipping point

oh are we playing the scoring trite points game

http://bbs.clutchcity.net/printthread.php?t=98443&pp=20&page=60

but now that we're at a constitutional tipping point, I'd be interested in your views and exactly when they shifted in 2008.

 

I agree with him but it's obvious Republicans have a political agenda in bringing this up. They never brought this up when Bush started this dog and pony show. Now it's a problem because they're on the losing end of it.

 

Honestly . . . All three branches are in the hands of private interest
and
well . . . better to concentrate power to one . . .basically one man
than paying 350 something others . . just pay the one

that is just good business

Rocket River

 

Yeah, I was talking about your agenda and not his. Northside's link is exactly what I'm talking about.

 

Thank you Basso for bringing us this scathing critique of our paralyzed Republican controlled House of Representatives as well as the political agenda of the whole Republican party since Bush left office. I think this quote captures the issue - governing has to be done. As the legislative branch has ceded its authority to certain executive branch agencies, and then subsequently refused to act, it has meant that the executive branch has continued to act to fill the needed void. Our Republican controlled House of Representatives needs to stop grandstanding and start actually governing. By being so intransigent, they diminish our political system as a whole. Write Republican Texan representatives and tell them that you are a constituent and you have always been a full-throated supported but that enough is enough; tell them that they might have needed to engage in demagoguery to get elected and win their primaries, but now it is time to govern and that governing means compromise.

 

Well, if they stop concentrating on gay marriage and creating pro-discrimination laws, maybe we can concentrate on important issues like this. But alas, there is no religion or hate to use to push this to the public and rile up the base - it's political.

And there's that either party don't want to change it. This power makes the President position just soo much more attractive for both parties and their handlers whoops I mean "donors".

 

bAssHole wouldn't have posted this 8-10 years ago... Yet now it is of importance to him?

 

So now we're going with the 'Obama is so powerful and dominate he controls all branches of government' argument?

 

Just a community organizer.

 

It's a shame both sides have to bring agendas to facts like this. Forget conservative or liberal viewpoints, and forget whose fault it is for bringing the government to this point, there's something to fix here. I completely agree with the article, it's alarming what Obama has done (and Bush and all the presidents and other past branches that have contributed to this). It should be completely obvious to us as Americans that alarming things are happening with this change in the system. But this falls as a secondary issue to the "Whose fault is it?" game that liberals and conservatives play with each other.

 

well, that didn't take to damn long, now did it.

 

And we have a constitutional lawyer as President - so we are good.

DD

 

What scholarly work did Obama produce on the constitution? Did he write any briefs for court cases regarding the constitution in his role as a constitutional lawyer?

And when has he ever made any constitutional arguments as POTUS (other than to let us know it's all good cause he was a constitutional lawyer)?

Contrast that to Ted Cruz and Mike Lee, who both clerked for Supreme Court Justices. Cruz argued and won multiple Supreme Court cases as Solicitor General of Texas.

 

He posted missives and retweets onto basketball-related forums, establishing himself as one of the foremost intellectual thinkers of his day.

 

This is well said. To further it, If we can all agree that the increasing imbalance in our government is a bad thing and that both political parties are responsible for it (we can all agree on that, right), then we should collectively blame both parties and turn on both of them.

Neither the Republicans nor the Democrats are friends of liberty, they are just friends of corporations, money and power. Both of them. Both of them. Say it with me -- both of them.

People really should start turning to 3rd parties or forming their own party based on a desire to see the power and imbalance of our government addressed. Perhaps a party based on the core values of campaign finance reform, an end to domestic spying and the patriot act, and a couple other issues that people dissatisfied with BOTH parties could agree on (end of the drug war, decreasing size of the military, better schools ?) .

 

HERE ******* HERE!!!!

This has always been my viewpoint, damn the idiots that tell us we cant be in the middle, we must choose a side. I say BULL. I will not support the power hungry morons you guys elect to go to Washington and line their pockets at our expense.

For those that think our system is about to crash, yall are delusional or you are saying it as a political attack against the guys you dont like. The power brokers that HamJam and RR refer to will never allow the system to burn....they would lose all power and influence that puts money in their pockets if that happened. All this talk about how this country is doomed is just bull**** meant to scare and separate us.