I was wondering if anyone else is concerned that Dorsey might just turn out to be a so-called summer league superstars, where he puts up big numbers but it doesn't translate to the season (feign and david thorpe have discussed this in general i dont think specifically about dorsey) I'm on the fence but had a couple reasons for concern after watching the games 1. offensively it worries me that he hasn't overpowered people at the rim. he has done some rim-rattling stuff when wide open, but he is getting fouled a lot around the rim and not powering through or getting stripped early. against bigger, better players who get more calls than summer league no names, this difficulty catching and dunking could make him a hayes-like black-hole. he's also not known to be much of a free throw shooter. 2. he talked a lot in video interviews before the summer league that he would help the team by running the floor as a big, and this excited me. either our competition has been really fast, or he has a higher estimation of his speed than he should. i haven't really seen him "run the floor" much at all. 3. it's great that he is rebounding so well, but he did this last year (13 and 14 in his two games i think). he's a big strong guy and the summer league competition (especially the teams we have played) is mostly smaller guys. he also gets a lot of juwan howard rebounds (when a player steals a wide open rebound from a guard on his team) because the team seems to know he wants them. I love the summer league, and I don't say this to be a downer. I just think what we are seeing from Taylor and Budinger is a whole lot more promising than a ton of rebounds against small people. I like Dorsey a lot though, so I want to be convinced otherwise. What do you see that I don't?
Since it sounds like Dorsey is a solid rebounder but still very unpolished on offense, I would say your concerns are highly founded good Sir.
Well, I do see your point clearly and you have good reason to believe that he might be a fluke. But, with that being said, during the last game , I kept an eye on him, and it looks like he knows the forms of rebounding. I only saw him box out good a few times, but at least we know that it is in him. He has the ability to keep progressing to where he can be a key player for our roster, but he must keep practicing and practicing.
The quality of competition must be of importance too. Doing well in the summer leagues is a start but it does not mean that they can bring that success in the regular season. Its too early to label Dorsey a good or bad player. Come preseason, we might see a glimpse ( not a sure thing in the pre season, remember Cato ) of what he really is.
Joey will get better,mostly on defense. He does need to finish strongly around the rim,but he will have problems scoring against defenses. He doesn't have the low post footwork or moves down low,to get it done. A good role player who can play well within his limitations is what I see from him in the future.
Chase Budinger is a more "Summer League esque star" imo.... We always have a white guy that can shoot the ball fill it up...
When you say summer league superstar, first thing which comes in to my mind is Marco Bellineli and Donte Green. I don't think Joey is that type of player, he really works hards and hustles all around the court.
Being a superstar in the summer leagues does not mean anything until they prove their worth in the regular season. Landry did not have a stellar summer league but ended up as a solid contributor in the games that matter. There is still hope for Dorsey. He can still be a good role player.
I think summer league stars are reserved for the guards, remember John Lucas III lighting up the summer league look where he is now But i think Joey is doing the right thing now because we need him to be a force on defense with Yao likely out for the season
i like him. when i look at him, i think... big ben wallace(ish)...definately could use a chris webber(ish) type player with adelmans system though! oh well, we'll take what we can get.
We've said this about Langhi, Spanoulis and Novak. It's not his athleticism that will stand out, although he is a better than average athlete (which is rare for people with his skill set). It's his shooting, passing and his off the ball movement that will allow him to succeed. He needs to work on defense and handling, though historically, players with his skillset will never be better than average at these things. Perhaps he will improve, but the odds are against him and he hasn't shown anything so far (just 3 games) to say that he will buck that trend. One promising thing is that he seems to have a frame that can support added strength in the form of lean muscle. That should help his finishing and defense. I think he can be a solid rotation player within 2 years and has the potential to be the 5th best starter on a championship team when he's in his prime.
I noticed Brad Newley was 0-4 from the field, but did have 3 boards and 3 dimes in 14 minutes of play?.....Should we eventually get him over here????
I wished Novak and langhi had Budingers athleticism. As for Spanoulis he was athletic but Van Gundy hated from the beginning because he was CD's decision.
as of now, he's not going to be in the rotation IMO, he's a liability on the offensive side of the court and really isn't of a upgrade over hayes.
