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Joakim Noah goes from buried on bench to lottery pick

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by Deuce, Mar 20, 2006.

  1. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    The Rockets really need to draft this guy. Unfortunately I think his stock is rising so fast he might not be there for them when they pick. :(



    Noah goes from buried on bench to lottery pick
    March 18, 2006
    By Pete Prisco
    CBS SportsLine.com Senior Writer
    http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9319214

    JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- How do you explain a team losing three players to the NBA, yet getting better?

    You can say it's coaching, and Florida coach Billy Donovan does a heck of a job, but his team's improvement from a year ago has to be about more than that.

    And it is.

    One need only look to the lean, long, shaggy-haired post player to see the real reason why the Florida Gators are on their way to the Sweet 16, after their 82-60 trouncing of Wisconsin-Milwaukee gets them there for the first time since 2000.

    Joakim Noah, the Gators' 6-11 sophomore forward, is the most improved player from one year to the next that I've ever seen.

    A year ago, Noah saw three minutes of action in two NCAA Tournament games, buried on the bench, a freshman hearing friends back home in New York questioning his status.

    "It's tough when all your friends are telling you to transfer," said Noah, the son of a former tennis great Yannick Noah. "It's always the same questions over and over again. You have doubts. But it made me hungrier."

    From sitting and watching a year ago he's now a potential lottery pick in this year's draft, if he decides to come out.

    Three minutes to lottery pick. And we thought Rudy was a good story.

    "It's all about hard work," Noah said. "I'm not worried about what happened in the past. Those things I'll think about in the offseason. Right now, I'm living in the moment."

    Noah had 17 points, seven rebounds, six assists and four blocks as Florida dominated the smaller Panthers. Corey Brewer led the Gators in scoring with 23 points, but this team is where it is because of Noah.

    He plays with an infectious style, his yelling to the crowd after big plays and timeouts seemingly stirring his teammates.

    Make no mistake about it: This is Noah's team.

    If you would have said that a year ago, somebody would have laughed in your face.

    "I don't know if it's improvement as much as it is his getting a chance," teammate Chris Richard said. "We knew he was a great player from the start. He just wasn't getting the time."

    Richard said you could see the talent in practice, which begs the question why Noah was on the bench.

    He was playing behind a good player, a senior in David Lee who was a first-round pick of the New York Knicks, but the talent display he's put on so far in two tournament games still makes that a bit mystifying.

    Noah brushes aside talk of the past in one minute, but when pressed he admitted it hurt him not to play last year.

    "That's what was so hard," Noah said. "When you're a competitor, you want to play. That might have been a selfish approach on my part. I was playing behind a first-round pick in David Lee, who had been through all the experiences. I was just a freshman at a big-time program. When you're a freshman at a big-time program, you usually are going to sit. That's tough. Your whole life, in middle school, in high school, you're the man in your neighborhood. In Hell's Kitchen, I'm the man."

    Well, he's the man again, and maybe the hottest prospect in the country. The word out of Gainesville is NBA scouts are drooling over him. Noah said he isn't thinking at all about that now, but his teammates are.

    "If he gets the opportunity this year, he has to take advantage of it," Richard said.

    Why wouldn't he?

    This tournament is his resume, his chance to show how good an NBA player he can be. Watching him against UWM, he put it all on display. He made passes like a man 6 inches shorter. He blocked shots in a way that brings up images of Marcus Camby, and he showed a nice array of moves near the basket.

    One of the best was a spin move for a dunk that left defender Adrian Tirgert standing still as if he was stuck to the floor.

    "That was sexy, right," Noah said.

    A lot about his game is sexy. But he's tough, too.

    He lost a tooth earlier this year in a game, but doesn't back down from anyone. He even took a shot in the mouth on one his bone-jarring dunks against UWM, but it really didn't faze him.

    That could be because he spent much of the summer in the New York Rucker League playing against some of the greatest street players you will see. There it's no death, no foul.

    Opposing coaches say he's unique, a tough player to guard because he's so tall, yet he possesses the skills of a guard.

    His length, as well as that of the Gators -- a team that also features two other potential first-round frontcourt players in Brewer and 6-8 Al Horford -- proved to be too much for the smaller Panthers.

    When UWM started to sag inside, the Gators started making 3-point shots, finishing 8-of-20.

    The Gators will now move on to Minneapolis and a Sweet 16 game that will give Noah at least one more chance to showcase his lottery skills.

    The way he's playing, it might be two, three or maybe even four more games.

    At least now we know the reason why this team is better than it was a year ago.

    It's the birth of a star.
     
  2. Buck Turgidson

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    Posted this a couple of days ago in the tourney thread, the article's a good read:

    Florida is seriously fun to watch when they're playing well. Joakim Noah is a stud. Kind of regretting my Wisc-Milw pick now.

    Good article on him here: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-03-22-noah-basketball_x.htm

    His mom is a former Miss Sweden, his dad won the French Open in '83 & is now a reggae star in France. Google pics of Yannick Noah's current wife, you won't be sorry.
     
  3. Rocketman95

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    I've always been blah on Florida basketball. No more. Still rooting for Dr. Hibbert and the Hoyas to take them out, but Noah is fun to watch.
     
  4. Clutch

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    Funny that they mentioned Camby because that is exactly his body build and I can't see the guy adding massive bulk ... a tall, athletic fireplug guy who can rebound and block shots sounds pretty good to me.

    Brandon Rush the other day said he's not coming out ... I can't see why some of these guys don't come out this season unless they know they won't be lottery or first round. Next year's draft is going to be tough as all the high schoolers who thought about going to the pros will get in their first year in college and can now bolt.
     
  5. m_cable

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    This kid's draft stock is going straight through the roof:

    http://draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1232

    If he keeps it up, it'll be a stretch to expect him at where we're picking (unless we get really lucky with a top 3 pick). Otherwise, Brandon Roy looks to be a good pickup.
     
  6. moomoo

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    sooo...the hoyas will be looking to raise a leg and do a number on him then?

    sorry, couldn't resist. :p

    plus i'm ESL, so maybe i missed something.
     
  7. jopatmc

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    Hmmmmm,

    Shelden Williams-7 blocks :eek:

    Yeah, let's hope Noah gets in and keeps pushing down Shelden for us.

    The biggest question I have about Noah is.........will he go hide under the bench if somebody throws a punch at him? ;)
     
  8. Deuce

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    Yeah, I got excited watching him over the last few weeks. I figured he might be someone the Rockets could get, but the way he is playing, his skills, his motor and his BB IQ, man I think he will be gone when the Rockets pick. Perhaps even Top 5?

    Clutch, I see what you are saying with Camby. But if you watch him play, he is more like AK-47. Because he not only gives you the blocks and the rebounds, but he is a GREAT passer. He is the kind of guy that could get those 5x5's. But I think he is on every scout's radar now. Damn! :(

    As for Roy, he looks like another SG stud, and I think he will be out of reach too!

    I agree with these players and coming out. If they are going to come out, this is the year to do it as next year's class will be much stronger. These players will go much higher this year.
     
  9. m_cable

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    Shelden is the prototypical "enforcer" that everyone seems to want next to Yao. For our offense's sake, I'd prefer a more skilled guy, but Williams might be the safest pick out of the bunch in terms of Big Men.
     
  10. hashmander

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    who's everyone? i think they need athleticism next to yao. ric bucher says the same thing.

    sheldon can only play very close to the basket and the paint would just be too crowded. there aren't going to be a bunch of 6-8 nobodies in the nba for him to bully.
     
  11. m_cable

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    Well obviously it's not technically everyone. But nearly everyone on this board, and in the media constantly talks about how Yao needs an "Enforcer" or a "Banger" to protect his back. How often do posters lament that we should have someone Otis Thorpe, or how many have offered up trade suggestions in the past for Elton Brand to do the dirty work.

    Yeah, I'd prefer an athletic guy with more skills and quickness than Williams, but we could do a lot worse than steady performer like him.
     
  12. Deuce

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    I still believe that someone that makes up for Yao's lack of footspeed is what we need. And that's why we went after Swift. Unfortunately it isnt working out.

    I wouldnt have a problem with Sheldon Williams. However I think Noah would be a much better PF next to Yao with his quickness, long arms and shot blocking ability.

    Not only that but Noah's got some moxie to him....

    That's what we need in the paint next to Yao.
     
  13. JayZ750

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    Is PF even the biggest priority? It's become a league of super athletic guards, of which we have none...considering T-Mac a SF.

    I guess SG and PF are equally important, and just take the player more likely to succeed in the NBA. If we do take a PF, though, either Swift will have to get more time at center, or playing time will be difficult to dish out.

    I've got Florida in my Final Four, partly because of Joakim's game/enthusiam.
     
  14. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    PF is still important. And if we could get Noah, we could then dangle Swift for that athletic guard you want. To me that is a better road then drafting a SG and then still wondering what to do at PF.

    BTW, Chad Ford on Noah (and Brandon Roy) in his blog today. And as you can see, I think our chances of getting him are going out the window. :(

     

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