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Jihadists' plot to attack NYC transportation system thwarted

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  1. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

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    Another nice victory in the war on terror.


    http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/07/tunnel.plot/index.html

    N.Y. tunnel terror plot uncovered
    Plot surfaced via Internet postings

    Friday, July 7, 2006; Posted: 12:31 p.m. EDT (16:31 GMT)

    (CNN) -- U.S. and Lebanese agents have foiled terrorist plans to attack New York's transportation system, U.S. authorities said Friday.

    Counterterrorism sources confirmed that a plot to blow up tunnels in lower Manhattan was uncovered several months ago when intelligence about the plan emerged in chat rooms on the Internet.

    A Lebanese official told CNN that a man suspected of planning to blow up the Holland Tunnel and a New York bridge is in detention in Beirut.

    But there is "no indication of any imminent threat to the New York transportation system or anywhere else in the U.S.," FBI Special Agent Richard Kolko said in a statement.

    U.S. officials worked closely with Lebanese authorities and other foreign law enforcement and intelligence partners to uncover the terror network, according to a joint statement from the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security.

    Authorities are still on the hunt for others suspected of being involved in the plot.

    "A significant development in this investigation was the arrest of a key suspect by Lebanese authorities," the statement said.

    "This investigation is ongoing."

    The statement said law enforcement officials know al Qaeda "continues to have an interest in attacking the United States," but at this time "there is no specific or credible information that al Qaeda is planning an attack on U.S. soil."

    The plot was first reported by the New York Daily News on Friday, which is the first anniversary of the London bombings. Four suicide bombers killed 52 people in the London Underground system and on a bus. (Full story)

    In its Friday editions, the Daily News reported that the FBI had revealed a plot to bomb New York's Holland Tunnel and flood the financial district in lower Manhattan.

    Counterterrorism sources told CNN that the Holland Tunnel -- the southernmost link between New Jersey and Manhattan -- was not mentioned specifically as a target.

    However, a Lebanese official said the plot did involve the Holland Tunnel and a New York bridge. It's unlikely that any plan to flood the financial district would work because it is above the level of the Hudson River.
    Plot a 'real threat'

    Nevertheless, CNN security analyst Pat D'Amuro characterized the plot as "a real threat" that "was in the early stages."

    A former high-ranking FBI official, D'Amuro said an FBI-Lebanese investigation "that goes back over a year" first revealed the plan. He said the investigation led to the suspect, and authorities have identified "six or seven others" -- all overseas. He said the plot was in the planning phase, and no "devices had been in place."

    Sources identified the man held in Beirut as Amir Andalousi.

    But Achraf Rifi, general director of Lebanon's internal security forces, said that name is a pseudonym and his real one is Assam Hamoud.

    Rifi said the man was arrested more than a month ago in his Beirut apartment in an operation conducted in coordination with the FBI. The suspect is a professor of computer studies at a private university in Lebanon, and was born in 1975, according to Rifi.

    The man was not arrested with anyone else and will be tried in Lebanon on terrorist charges, Rifi said, adding that the suspect cannot be extradited to United States.

    U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer said no evidence existed that "in any way anything was done, either purchase of explosives or sending of money" and it "was caught" when investigators discovered "terrorists talking to one another."

    "This is one instance where intelligence was on the ball," the New York Democrat said.
    No explosives found

    Citing sources, the Daily News reported that the plotters sought to drown New York's financial district much as Hurricane Katrina did to New Orleans and that they also wanted to strike subways and other tunnels.

    The Daily News said, "The plotters wanted to detonate a massive amount of explosives inside the Holland Tunnel to blast a hole that would destroy the tunnel, everyone in it, and send a devastating flood shooting through the streets of lower Manhattan."

    The newspaper said, "New York City officials believed the plan could conceivably work with enough explosives placed in the middle of the tunnel, which runs underneath the river bed."

    It is unclear how far along the plot had moved -- whether it was in the talking stages or a more advanced operational phase, counterterrorism sources told CNN. No explosives were found.

    CNN's Kelli Arena contributed to this report.
     
  2. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Good news, texxx. I was watching the coverage on CNN earlier today.



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  3. MR. MEOWGI

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    Does anyone have an idea of when the War on Terror will end?
     
  4. bigtexxx

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    Would you like to stop it now? :rolleyes:
     
  5. MR. MEOWGI

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    I'll take that as a no.
     
  6. bigtexxx

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    So you're tired of our victories in the war on terror? Are you putting your selfish political desires ahead of our nation's security?
     
  7. MR. MEOWGI

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    I don't have any political desires. I would just like to be honest about this so called war that will probably be with us forever. When will we know victory? Who exactly is the enemy?
     
  8. mc mark

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    Hopefully this will convince the idiots in charge in Washington to restore the 40% of anti terror funds they are cutting from New York.
     
  9. ima_drummer2k

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    People who plot to blow up tunnels in lower Manhattan.
     
  10. MR. MEOWGI

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    So we got them. Does that mean the war is over?
     
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    Of course not. The war is going to last for a while. What is your suggestion, to stop it? Are you one of the folks who are putting pressure to stop funding NYC's terror budgets as mc mark has lamented about?
     
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    No kidding. I'm still shaking my head over that. :eek:



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  13. ima_drummer2k

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    No. It just means that a plot to kill a lot of people in New York was foiled, which is a good thing. I think most people would agree with that.

    Not sure what your getting at here. Is there some sort of larger issue you're hinting at? If so, why don't you just come out and say it.
     
  14. Master Baiter

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    What I think he is getting at, and I'm sure you know this, is that we don't have a definitive foe. We can't say, hey, we defeated whoever therefore we are done. With the way our government has been less than forecoming about all of the details, how are we to know when we are done? How can we guarantee that the government wouldn't (I know this is a stretch) take advantage of the situation?
     
  15. Batman Jones

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    I'll come out and say it. Or, rather, I'll let David Cross do it for me. "Having a war on terror is like having a war on jealousy." I don't think MEOWGI's against preventing terrorist attacks or keeping America safe -- I think he finds the sloganeering to be dumb, which it is.

    Of course it's a great thing that these guys were caught and it would have been a terrible thing if they hadn't. One more reason (as if we needed one) that cutting 40% of the security budget for NYC is insanely stupid. Bush should step in and fix that yesterday. This episode is also another reason that Bush should stop blocking the recommendations of the bi-partisan 9/11 commission and start doing everything he can to protect this country and it's citizens. He is not doing that now.
     
  16. Batman Jones

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    And texxx's suggestion that the "war on terror" will "last a while" is hilarious. How many more terrorists do we have to kill or capture before we're done, texxx? Answer: this will never be done. It is an unwinnable "war." But the point of the efforts - beyond scoring political points in the war on Democrats - is to protect America and it's citizens. It is time for Bush to start doing everything he can do to do that.
     
  17. MR. MEOWGI

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    "A while"? You mean like the war on drugs "a while"?

    I would stop waging war on a tool of war, which terrorism is, because that doesn't make any sense (unless there is an hidden agenda). I would at least define the enemy and set terms for victory. If not, it will just be never ending war based on never ending fears.
     
  18. MR. MEOWGI

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    I think we have engaged in a war that is ultimately unwinnable.
     
  19. Baqui99

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    Big deal, law enforcement doing its job.
     
  20. halfbreed

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    I wonder what some of the people on this board would have said during the American Revolution, the Civil War, WWI, and WWII.
     

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