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Jewish Shift Toward GOP

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MadMax, May 7, 2003.

  1. MadMax

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    http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/127/nation/Some_see_Jewish_shift_toward_GOP+.shtml

    Some see Jewish shift toward GOP


    By Anne E. Kornblut, Globe Staff, 5/7/2003

    ASHINGTON -- The Jewish community responded enthusiastically when Senator Joseph I. Lieberman joined the presidential ticket in 2000, a move many saw as recognition of their long support for the party of Franklin D. Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy. As they had for every election in decades, Jewish voters overwhelmingly cast their ballots for the Democrats.



    But after a year and a half of strong statements from President Bush about fighting terrorism, along with his equally strong backing of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel, some prominent analysts in both parties say they detect a shift in the Jewish community. For the first time in more than 20 years, one Democratic pollster said he sensed an erosion of support from Jewish activists that could affect the presidential race. And according to researchers at B'nai Brith, younger Jewish Americans seem more likely to lean Republican than their parents.

    Younger Jews do not have the attachment to defining moments in Democratic history like the New Deal that their parents and grandparents do, making them more open to consider voting for a Republican candidate, the researchers said.

    ''Our conclusion is, there's going to be a fight for the Jewish vote in 2004,'' said Jay Garfinkel, executive editor of the B'nai Brith magazine International Jewish Monthly, which is publishing the report.

    There is already ''a detectable shift in the Jewish community, in terms of their openness and willingness to support Republican candidates,'' said Matthew Brooks of the Republican Jewish Coalition. ''Right now we're on a path, looking at 2004, where we're going to see, I think, that increase in Jewish support continue.'' Not all Jewish voters support the Sharon government, which has taken a hard-line approach in the Palestinian territories to rout out terrorism and has been reluctant to stop settlement activity, a key component of the peace process. Also, it is never simple to measure opinions in the Jewish community, where views of the most outspoken leaders are not always shared at the grass roots. Political scientists also differ in their assessment of how much opinions have changed.

    But one prominent Democratic pollster, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that some Jewish activists and fund-raisers have been lured to consider supporting Bush by his forceful response to terrorism, an issue that resonates deeply with supporters of Israel and people who have traveled there.

    Bush has sided with Israel repeatedly, referring to Sharon as a ''man of peace'' last year and demanding that all terrorist attacks stop before the peace process moves ahead. In response, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee has issued more than a dozen statements over the last year and a half, ''applauding'' Bush for his support of Israel, one sign of the evolving relationship between Bush and the Jewish community.

    In standing up to other countries, Bush has struck a chord with some Jewish voters, who may be liberal on social issues but are generally hawkish on foreign policy, according to University of Virginia political scientist Larry Sabato.

    ''I think some Jewish voters have been attracted to Bush's strength and national security stands beyond Israel,'' he said. ''They prefer a strong foreign policy leader to a weak one, and we've seen this before in previous highs among Jews voting Republican. There's certainly a precedent for this.

    ''It's part of the Bush-Rove strategy of marginal gains,'' Sabato said. ''They're not going to carry the Jewish-American vote, but they can increase their performance from 2000, and in so doing make it much more difficult for a Democrat to win.''

    The Democratic pollster agreed, saying: ''Right after Sept. 11, there were polls that said Jews liked Bush. Well, everyone liked Bush then.

    ''Having said that, there has been some erosion on the part of community influentials, leaders, even some money people,'' he said. ''At the highest echelon [of leadership], there has been some erosion, but that is not evident in the general public.''

    Republicans have been trying to lay claim to the Jewish vote for years. With the exception of the Reagan election in 1980 -- in which estimates suggest he earned 39 percent of the Jewish vote, compared with 45 percent for Jimmy Carter -- there have been wide gaps between Republicans and Democrats for decades. Other estimates say George H.W. Bush won just 11 percent of the Jewish vote, compared with 9 percent for Ross Perot and 80 percent for Bill Clinton. In the last election, George W. Bush won just 19 percent of the Jewish vote, and Al Gore won 78 percent, estimates say.

    Bush faced deep distrust from the Jewish community when he came to office, largely because of his past statements about Judaism. In an infamous incident in 1990, Bush told his mother he did not believe that Jews can get into heaven, prompting Barbara Bush to call a close family friend, the Rev. Billy Graham, to set her son straight. Graham reportedly told Bush that such decisions are up to God, an answer that apparently changed Bush's mind, but did not help his case among Jewish voters when he ran for president.

    Yet religion has played a role in helping draw Bush closer to the Jewish community. Unwavering support for Israel is an important conviction among evangelical Christians, who interpret the Bible to mean that, among other things, the country belongs to the Jewish people. That has created an occasional and, at times, awkward alignment between Republican Christians such as Bush and more liberal Jews, though their religious beliefs vastly differ.

    Still, Democrats who concede that Bush is making inroads with Jewish voters portray it as a corrective shift, with Jews returning to their previous voting patterns.

    ''I expect the Republican vote in the Jewish community will go up slightly, to the levels it was in the 1970s and '80s,'' said Ira Forman, director of the National Jewish Democratic Council. He denied that there is any tectonic shift taking place, saying that it was unrealistic to expect Democrats to continue beating Republicans among Jews by ratios of 4 to 1, as they did in the 1990s.

    At the same time, ''a lot of things can happen between now and Election Day,'' Forman said.

    This story ran on page A1 of the Boston Globe on 5/7/2003.
    © Copyright 2003 Globe Newspaper Company.
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    Interesting. Thanks for the post, MadMax.
     
  3. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    We are happy to take them.

    The liberal left is going to have one heck of a time fundraising without them. That's a shame.
     
  4. Baqui99

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    Michael Dell contributed a ton of money to the Bush campaign in 2000.
     
  5. RocketMan Tex

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    Don't count your benjamins before they are printed, TJ.

    A number of Jewish voters have been shifting from the Democratic to the Republican Party since 1980, but it will take a while before a majority of Jewish voters consider themselves Republicans. There are still plenty of powerful Jews with money around the country who are die-hard Democrats, and it would take something huge for the Republican party to gain a majority of the Jewish vote. I simply don't see it happening by the 2004 election.

    Then again, Junior still has the troops in the Middle East...perhaps he is planning an invasion of the West Bank to ensure that the Jewish vote goes Republican in 2004?

    On the other hand, if God help us all Al Sharpton somehow becomes the 2004 Democratic nominee, I sincerely believe that every Jewish voter in the country, myself included, would vote Republican.
     
  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I would love to see a large collection of Jewish Delegates debating the Christian right delegates at the 04 Republican convention.
     
  7. RocketMan Tex

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    Certainly would make watching a national political convention more exciting, wouldn't it!
     
  8. MadMax

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    i'm still hoping to see the Quanell X's of the world debate a Jewish delegation at the democratic convention. that would be a real hoot.
     
  9. pgabriel

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    I don't think the Quannell X's of the world will be invited.
     
  10. RocketMan Tex

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    That has already happened. It just wasn't at the Democratic Convention.
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    So much for the 50/50 nation. ;)
     
  12. Woofer

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    Heck, I've always thought Joe Lieberman was a Republican.
     
  13. Heretic

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    It's cool that we see them not as political americans, but as religious dollar signs.
     
  14. El_Conquistador

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    Quanell X will be speaking at the June meeting of the Houston Young Republicans. I'll be there. I plan on giving him a good old-fashioned SHOUT DOWN.
     
  15. Mr. Mooch

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    Hey I ain't moving from my stance.

    I'm staying out in left field.

    F**K POLITICS!!!

    Who's with me?!?!?
     
  16. Kam

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    Vote for me in 2020.


    Go Kam, it's my burfday, gonna par dee like its my burfday.
     
  17. F.D. Khan

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    I think many of the Jewish voters may be swayed by the neocon politics and actions of individuals such as Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz, who both have strong ties to Israel.

    These hawks are now promoting attacking Syria, Iran and even Saudi Arabia; but North Korea should be dealt with politically:rolleyes:

    How ironic that we attack Israel's opponents in the region, give them free reign to kill and occupy Palestinians and now the Republican Platform is recieving more Jewish votes?? North Korea?? Who cares. Its too far from Israel. Whose national security are we looking out for? Israel's or the US's??
     
  18. RocketMan Tex

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    The Republican party's gains in the Jewish vote are due to two things:

    1. The Administration's support of Israel
    2. Tax Cuts

    Friends of mine who are also Jewish and who have recently voted Republican list these two reasons as why they did so. They are all businessmen.
     
  19. Refman

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    Ever hear of the term Judeo-Christian beliefs? Hmmm...I wonder where that came from? :)
     
  20. wowming

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    Woofer, you thought right.
     

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