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Jesus has returned...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Cohen, Aug 25, 2006.

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  1. Cohen

    Cohen Member

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    .. and he's rich.

    :rolleyes:

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  2. rhester

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    Well he looks alot different that the description the Bible gives him-

    Revelations 19:11-16 I (John) saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter."[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
    KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
     
  3. MR. MEOWGI

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    DON"T TAKE THE BROWN ACID. THE BROWN ACID IS BAD.
     
  4. rhester

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    Thanks,

    I think it is a good ole fashioned 'flashback'
     
  5. Mr. Brightside

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    I have come to terms with forgiving Jesus for all the problems in the world he has created.
     
  6. emoreland

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    Yeah Jesus is the one that causes all of the crimes and terrible things in the world and would have absolutely NOTHING to do with the evil inside the heart of man. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Ottomaton

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    It is my understanding that Revelations is the most controversial book of the Bible, and that if there is any book that doesn't belong in the New Testament, then Revelations is it. For instance here is what Martin Luther had to say about this book:

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    About this book of the Revelation of John, I leave everyone free to hold his own opinions. I would not have anyone bound to my opinion or judgment. I say what I feel. I miss more than one thing in this book, and it makes me consider it to be neither apostolic nor prophetic.

    First and foremost, the apostles do not deal with visions, but prophesy in clear and plain words, as do Peter and Paul, and Christ in the gospel. For it befits the apostolic office to speak clearly of Christ and his deeds, without images and visions. Moreover there is no prophet in the Old Testament, to say nothing of the New, who deals so exclusively with visions and images. For myself, I think it approximates II Esdras; I can in no way detect that the Holy Spirit produced it.

    Moreover he seems to me to be going much too far when he commends his own book so highly -- indeed, more than any of the other sacred books do, though they are much more important -- and threatens that if anyone takes away anything from it, God will take away from him, etc. Again, they are supposed to be blessed who keep what is written in this book; and yet no one knows what that is, to say nothing of keeping it. This is just the same as if we did not have the book at all. And there are many far better books available for us to keep.

    Many of the fathers also rejected this book a long time ago; although St. Jerome, to be sure, refers to it in exalted terms and says that it is above all praise and that there are as many mysteries in it as words. Still, Jerome cannot prove this at all, and his praise at numerous places is too generous.

    Finally, let everyone think of it as his own spirit leads him. My spirit cannot accommodate itself to this book. For me this is reason enough not to think highly of it: Christ is neither taught nor known in it. But to teach Christ, this is the thing which an apostle is bound above all else to do; as Christ says in Acts 1, "You shall be my witnesses." Therefore I stick to the books which present Christ to me clearly and purely.

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    I am not trying to assault your views, I just personally have a problem with Revelations in the context of the rest of the Bible and I think that some other wiser and more pious men have had the same problem. I don't think that not giving credence to the book excludes one from Christianity, though it would definitely be a minority view.

    As the book sort of embarrasses me, I feel compelled to separate some of what I consider its wilder flings of fancy from the greater whole of Christianity. In other words, it is possible to read Revelations as 'taking the brown acid' (which I think many people not familiar with Christianity might when first exposed to it) but this in no way reflects on the greater message or picture of Christianity.

    Again, I hope that you don't view my little personal disclaimer as any sort of attack on your beliefs.
     
  8. Saint Louis

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    Revelations is the best sci-fi book of the Bible.
     
  9. KDavis

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    It's not sci-fi. It's history.
     
  11. univac hal

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    I'm sure they have absolutely NOTHING to do with His claims as well :rolleyes:
     
  12. MadMax

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    whoa...hold up. because people twisted the teachings of a person who taught to love your enemies...to not strike back if your hit...to treat everyone with respect...to have reverence for all life. don't blame the teacher. blame the folks who twisted his teachings to make them fit their selfish purposes.
     
  13. univac hal

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    I said claims.. I never said teachings :)
     
  14. MadMax

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    even his claims. he never said, "i am...so go spill blood!!! I am...so go treat people like dogs!!"
     

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