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(Jerusalem Post) US ready to strike Iran on Good Friday

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  1. Ottomaton

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    US ready to strike Iran on Good Friday

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    The United States will be ready to launch a missile attack on Iran's nuclear facilities as soon as early this month, perhaps "from 4 a.m. until 4 p.m. on April 6," according to reports in the Russian media on Saturday.

    According to Russian intelligence sources, the reports said, the US has devised a plan to attack several targets in Iran, and an assault could be carried out by launching missiles from fighter jets and warships stationed in the Persian Gulf.

    Russian news agency RIA Novosti quoted a security official as saying, "Russian intelligence has information that the US Armed Forces stationed in the Persian Gulf have nearly completed preparations for a missile strike against Iranian territory."

    The Russian Defense Ministry rejected the claims of an imminent attack as "myths." There was no immediate response from Washington.

    The reports come as the Iranian chief of staff, Hassan Fayrouz Abadi, was quoted on Saturday by Iran's Fars news agency warning leaders of Arab countries that Israel plans to open a "suicidal attack" on its neighbors this summer, to "prevent the withdrawal of the US troops from Iraq and the area."

    "I warn the dear leaders and Muslim brothers in the neighboring countries of the occupied territories that this suicidal attack of the Zionists is threatening them," he said.

    The countries in danger, he said, were "Lebanon and Syria, and later Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia."

    Also on Saturday, Russia urged Britain and Teheran to resolve the dispute over 15 British sailors and marines captured by Iran last week, a local news agency reported.

    Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mikhail Kamynin urged the two sides to provide the United Nations with their own assessments as to what happened and where exactly the detention occurred so that the body could conduct an independent probe.

    "We hope these actions will provide a foundation for the soonest possible resolution of the crisis," Kamynin was quoted as saying by the Interfax news agency.

    Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad insisted that the captured British sailors and marines trespassed in Iranian waters and called world powers "arrogant" for failing to apologize, the country's official news agency reported.

    "The British occupier forces did trespass our waters. Our border guards detained them with skill and bravery. But arrogant powers, because of their arrogant and selfish spirit, are claiming otherwise," IRNA quoted Ahmadinejad as saying during a speech in the southeastern city of Andinmeshk.

    The European Union grappled with a double bind over Iran Saturday - the country's nuclear program and its seizure of the British troops - and reported no progress on either issue.

    A debate about Iran's nuclear ambitions had been scheduled as a key agenda item but "was overshadowed to a certain extent by the issue of the sailors and marines," German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said after hosting a two-day EU foreign ministers meeting in Bremen, Germany.

    The Foreign Ministry in Iran dismissed the EU's "biased and meddlesome" comments on the captured troops, saying the dispute solely involved the governments of Iran and Britain.

    Speaking to reporters in Bremen, British Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett urged Iran to resolve the crisis over the military personnel peacefully, saying London remains open to dialogue.

    "We encourage Iran to peacefully resolve this issue," she said.

    "We continue to express our willingness to engage in dialogue and discussions with Iran," she added. "That is very much in the best interest of our people and that is our foremost concern."

    "I think everyone regrets that this position has arisen," she said. "What we want is a way out of it."

    AP contributed to this report.
     
  2. ChrisBosh

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    Probability of this happening is 0.0001%
     
  3. A_3PO

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    You warmonger, it's more like 0.000000000000000000000001%. Get your facts straight and stop trying to scare people!
     
  4. glynch

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    Unfortunately I still think the American people might rally around the flag initially for the intense bombing of Iran or even a ground war as long as it is fought with other people's children or the professional army.

    It is just too hard for most of them to accept that the USA could be so wrong on an important issue like starting an unjust war or a massive bombing campaign with the accompnaying death of hundreds or thosands of innocents.

    Eventually as Vietnam or Iraq, after much suffering with limited success, the ordinary American can realize that a mistake was made, albeit with the best of honorable intentions.
     
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    No. No. No. The majority of Americans ALREADY REALIZE the Iraq invasion was a tragic mistake and is a disaster. The vast majority of Americans no longer trust the Bush administration to conduct foreign policy adventures. Bush and his minions have zero credibility. Actually, this is very old news.

    Most of the "rallies" would be against the Bush administration and politics in this country would enter a new era of hostility and radicalization we've never seen before. Right now, our country has no stomach to open another war front. Bush is already a radioactive "roast duck" on his last legs. If we bombed Iran, he may as well decapitate himself after issuing the order because the roast duck would be served for dinner.
     
  6. glynch

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    This is true as of the last year or two. A majority rallied around the flag for the at least the first year of the Iraqi War.

    Unfortunately I think an intense bombing capaign in which no Americans were killed yet we kill thousands or perhaps hundreds of thousands of Iranians (if we destroy their sewer and water systems as some bombing plans I have hear of propose), would be supported or passively accepted by most Americans. this would of course depend on the mainstream media continuing efforts to demonize Iran and Iranians. You can count on Fox and the right wing media to support such an air attack.

    A ground war would be a different matter, as we now have the "Iraqi Syndrome", in which the American people are at least temporarily wary of losing even the soldiers of the volunary army in wars against countries that don't attack us.
     
  7. SuperYanthrax

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    The Russians predicted correctly/found out by FSB spying that the US would attack Iraq before it happened. Their track record is pretty decent...

    I can see this happening though. Bush is a warmonger and has been from the start of his administration, even before 9/11.
     
  8. rodrick_98

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    i'd like to reiterate what i said in the other thread. you bring up vietnam and iraq as examples of failure, i would like point to the success we had in japan and germany as examples...

    but seeing that we aren't going to reinstate the draft, and the other 4 following conditions, i think any sort of campaign at this point would be unwise to say the least.

    1) we, the US, are already bogged down and couldn't commit to help the UK.
    2) as already mentioned, an attack on iran will likely only strengthen the mullah's rule. nationalism is powerful.
    3) iran, for the most part is one of the more secular middle eastern countries, and if it weren't for the past 50 years of screw-ups by many different administrations we could be flying planes off their runways.
    4) until there is an alternative fuel source, we can't afford to knock out 10% of the worlds oil.


    also, if we engage in any sort or attack on them, bombing or otherwise, it would be fairly easy for them to move their million man army through the zagros mountains and right in to iraq. the american people have no stomach for the type of war it would take for this to actually work.

    look how well israel did against hezbollah. :rolleyes:
     
  9. ymc

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    I agree with glynch that we won't have massive protest against Bush during a massive bombing campaign.

    Look back in 1999 when we bombed Yugoslavia, at least 2000+ civilians were killed and we only lost two pilots. People in the States barely knew anything about Yugoslavia and nobody even cared.

    Similar thing will happen during a similar campaign against Iran. This should continue until Iran starts to retaliate against our troops in Iraq. If we do lost many soldiers in this retaliation, then people might do something.

    We Americans are not cold-blooded but unfortunately we are indifferent to other people's suffering.
     
  10. ymc

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    Israel was stupid to invade Lebanon on the ground. I think we will just stay put in Iraq and bomb the Iranians if they cross the border en mass. If they are smart, they shouldn't march in a large army, instead they should sneak in and conduct insurgent type attacks in a large scale.
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    Where are you guys getting the idea that it will be a "massive" bombing campaign that will kill millions of civilians? It would be a targeted missile strike aimed at
     
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    Yeah, right. If it was so easy they would do it now.

    That was totally different, those weren't targetted strikes against nuclear capability. A successful example of this is Israel destroying Iraq's nuclear reactor in 1981.
     
  13. Zac D

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    Dear Jerusalem Post,

    That's one hell of an inappropriate April Fool's joke.

    Zac
     
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    I never thought someone other than charles Barkley could offend me with their Ignorance,then I made the mistake of tuning into Sean hannity's show just out of curiosity.It is almost like these evil doers(right wing media) have their own version of Wolrd History,the scary thing is that they believe it :eek:
     
  15. ymc

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    I don't think we can kill millions with targeted bombing but certainly at 5-digits if we extrapolate from the 1999 NATO bombing.

    But I suppose even though the bombing themselves might not kill many people in the beginning, the breakdown in social order, disease, destruction of infrastructure in the aftermath can cause further death no one documents. Iraq is a tragic example.
     
  16. Mr. Clutch

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    The 1999 NATO war and the invasion of Iraq are totally different from a targetted strike on nuclear facilities.
     
  17. glynch

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    Si. Hannity es muy igonorante. Es decir ques es un derechista y un warmonger.
    :p
     
  18. ymc

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    You said '"massive" bombing campaign". That's what I am responding to. I suppose strikes against nuclear facilities only can't be called "massive", right?
     
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    Huh? I'm saying that this is NOT a massive bombing campaign. Targeted strikes against nuclear strikes do not have to be massive.
     
  20. ymc

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    Sorry about my misunderstanding.
     

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