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Jerry Sloan feels that his Jazz team isn't "nasty" enough.

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by droxford, Apr 20, 2009.

  1. droxford

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    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/points-jazz-sloan-2368846-offense-nasty

    By JANIS CARR
    The Orange County Register

    LOS ANGELES - Throughout the years, Utah has had a reputation of being a rough, physical team that believes an elbow here and a shove there is just part of the game.

    At least that's how it used to be around Salt Lake City and other NBA parts around the country, where Jazz was another name for "nasty."

    But that seemingly has changed.

    Jerry Sloan thinks this young Jazz team, with its handful of players born in the late 1980s, isn't mean enough or tough enough and that was part of their problem in Utah's 113-100 loss to the Lakers in Game 1 of their first-round series.

    "We're not a nasty team," Sloan said. "Most of the teams we've had here were nasty; they would get after you [he's referring to previous Jazz teams]. The guys we have now are just learning that a little more as we go along.

    "Part of that is my fault. I take total responsibility for that. I probably haven't been nasty enough with them."


    The Jazz didn't come out with the kind of toughness that has marked Sloan's previous teams, allowing the Lakers to go on a 17-4 run early on to turn a four-point deficit into a 19-10 lead in the first quarter. Utah showed little fight through the rest of the first half, trailing by 22 points (62-40) at halftime.

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    Sloan is a comlete d!ck. He'll never win a championship, and he deserves to lose.
     
     
  2. ToyCen428

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    seem pretty nasty when they play us. NBA is a mental game. Jazz have gotten in our heads. Lakers have gotten in the Jazz' head. If Lakers get in your head, theyll beat you.
     
  3. Shaud

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    I didn't watch most of that game, but were the Jazz flopping a lot?

    That works against us but you are not going to get those calls a lot against the Lakers.
     
  4. DieHard Rocket

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    So by "nasty" does he mean cheating-whiny-little-flopping b****es?

    The '88-'90 Pistons were "nasty". The Jazz have never been anything close to that.

    Hey Jerry, teach your guys how to play fundamental, competitive basketball and respect the game and maybe you'll win something.
     
  5. JuLiO-R-

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    "Antoine Carr must be rolling in his grave."

    - Charles Barkley's thoughts on today's game. :D
     
  6. kikimama

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    Wow, everything bad thing about the Jazz is now confirmed for me. I use to think it was just how they played naturally but now it's clear that Sloan beats it into them.
     
  7. tehG l i d e

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    I hope they get swept and he retires without a champion. Complete definition of coaching failure.
     
  8. saleem

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    He is a jerk! Basketball requires skill and clean play. You can be tough without being "nasty" which is a euphemism for dirty Utah Jazz basketball in this case.
     
  9. v3.0

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    Just playing mind games and calling out his players. No big deal. You can't really question a coach's pedigree when he's won all those games and went to the finals twice. Players will get jettisoned before Sloan will ever leave. DWill had to conform to Sloan's ways before he blossomed into the player he is right now.
     
  10. A_3PO

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    The Jazz haven't been nasty for 2-3 years. Their recent teams win by running and offense as opposed to sticky, tenacious defense. The only nasty guy left on their team is Harpring, but he's way over-the-hill and doesn't play much.

    If you consider getting offensive rebounds "nasty", then maybe there's a little nastiness left in them.

    Nasty, gritty defense is the only way to defeat the Lakers. If they are allowed to play in rhythm on offense, forget about it. Pau and the other players must be bumped, hit and made uncomfortable so that their effort level on offense will sag. They cannot be allowed to easily receive the ball in their sweet spots and go to work. The Cavs are the only team in the NBA capable of doing that in a full 7-game series while also challenging the Lakers to work hard on defense.

    Yes, it's mind games. No, it won't work. Worth a try.
     
  11. Invisible Fan

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    LOL another dirty Jazz player I repressed.
     
  12. droxford

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    I've always known this about Sloan. I'm just surprised to hear him actually say it.

    loser.
     
     
  13. ibm

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    we are not dirty enough. those boys are too clean. even though they've learned a lot flopping (ak comes natural, though), they haven't mastered the plays in mailman's style yet. and the last play in my defensive play book, the bear hug, i just haven't had the time to let them practice. it's totally my fault.

    and since our clock worker moved to portland last year, we just haven't had any home court advantage.

    :mad:
     
  14. droxford

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    ... and I hope we never do.
     
     
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    the peak pistons years (04-06) had the right bumps and pushes to possibly take down this lakers team. they used that physical style to take down a possibly superior 04 team (though terrible chemistry).
     
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    has he not seen kiridinko, boozer, okur, and monkey boy? they look f'n nasty!
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Sloan found a system that works, foul a lot, and the refs eventually stop calling all the fouls.

    It is just the way his team plays, it works great for them at home but no so great on the road, probably why the Jazz have never won a championship, because this way of playing hurts them 50% of the time and helps them 50% of the time.

    DD
     
  18. Old Man Rock

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    That is stupid. The Jazz are not in our heads. The only thing that stopped us going 3 and 1 against the Jazz this season was the schedule not the season. People who say the jazz or Dallas is in our head don't understand the game. You cannot win every game. And if you look at the schedule you can see where the losses are likely to come.

    The Jazz have a good team. They played the Lakers tougher than the Blazers played us. THey have the ability to beat the Lakers in the right circumstances, like if the Lakers are on a road trip and have to face them after a back to back. But the Lakers are better than the Jazz and will win most games against them. Yes there is something about matchups but the better team wins on most nights.

    Everyone looks at the last game against Dallas and says we don't matchup good against Dallas. Again stupid. Dallas has finally started jelling and if you watched any of their last games you could see they had improved and were finally playing much better basketball. And the Rockets were playing their butts off against some tough competition just to try and have a shot at the division title. They just beat the Hornets the Game before in a blowout at home and they had just won 5 in a row where the intensity of every game was like a playoff game. Do not doubt how draining that is. ANd now they had 1 game to play to win the division but they ran out of gas.

    Still they were kicking dallas' butt and then the stupid Refs took Yao out of the game with the stupidest absurd calls in the 2 weeks. The refs have been calling terrible against Yao this season but as of late were doing better. That was not the case against Dallas. SO after the Rockets kicked their but for 2 and a half quarters the refs took Yao out and then the Rockets were never the same! Under those circumstances with so much on the line and so little left in the tank it would have took a miracle to overcome. Didn't you feel that at the time of the game? I did. I felt it the minute he gat that stupid 4th foul. I screamed at the ref because I knew Yao was drained and this was going to suck out his energy and the whole Rockets team would suffer for it. But that win didn't prove anything other than that on any given night any NBA team can beat any NBA team. Memphis beat us twice but does anyone actually believe that they are better than us.

    And now we face the Blazers and you hear stupid reporters say they don't match up well against the Rockets but the fact is we are better than them. Sure Yao is much better than their centers but he played only 24 minutes and when he was out the Rockets still kicked butt. Scola played better than Aldridge Brooks played better and Roy found it difficult to do more than shoot jumpers. Are we in their head yes because we kick their butt on the court but do you doubt for 1 minute that they will not come out to play on tuesday. They played us tough 2 out 3 regular seson games. They can beat us under the right circumstances and will probably win 1 game in this series. Maybe. But the fact is they are learning how to play in the playoffs and the Rockets are one of the best teams in the league.

    So all of this we are in their head o we don't matchup well with them is just a bunch of crud mostly. The better will win most games on most nights and barring unforseen circumstances we will beat the Blazers this series and the Lakers will beat the Jazz.
     
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  19. Surfguy

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    god forbid they actually win on skill and talent. they have to be nasty to win...meaning they need cooked calls from p***y athletics (aka flops). mind you...he didn't say toughness...he said nastiness. that has to be a first for me...listening to a coach say his team isn't nasty enough. if he wants the lakers or anyone else to actually fear the jazz...well...then that is just not happening. i assume he is wanting a little more attitude and swagger out of his players...but their only good enough to get away with that against the rockets and teams they match up well with. now that the lakers are going to blast them into submission, they are not being nasty enough. lol
     
  20. DaDakota

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    You just earned yourself some Shamrock for this most excellent post.

    DD
     

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