is it just me or does it seem like every year jvg picks some sorry below average player that is a good teammate (works hard and professional) but really is not worthy of any significant min. in the NBA? last year it was bowen, and although padgett is not nearly as bad i feel like he is getting to many min. he seems like a good guy, but that is no reason to play him so much and let novak rot at the end of the bench. i dont understand why novak isnt getting at least 5 of padgetts min. to see what he can do, you know what padgett can do (which is shoot 3s and not much else) so lets at least get a small look at novak. which also brings me to another annoying trait of vg, his unwillingness to give rookies any min. (besides being forced to with luther last year) they need to get some time in order to develope the "NBA" game, but get none. (perplexing) i dont know if it was just me but it seemed last night when the bulls came back all padgett was good for was running around like he had his head cut off and getting several quick fouls.(one charge and two def. i think) sometimes i dont understand vg decisions like using rafer to inbound the passes at the end of the game, i am not even a coach and i know using a point on an inbounds pass is a major nono! tell me what you guys think
haha I understand the novelty in Novak, but this topic is on EVERY thread down there. Please read other threads and add it there instead of starting a new one.
Padgett was glued to the pine before Chuck Hayes went down to injury. He's getting minutes now because he can play inside, and Steve Novak can't. Plus, he's less of a liability (both offensively and defensively) than Juwan Howard, and he has the 3 point stroke to space the floor when Yao goes to work. Yeah, yeah, yeah ... I know we all fell in love with Steve Novak before the season started. He will eventually get his minutes in the rotation. But right now Scotty the Body is a lot more valuable to the team, and I have no problem with him seeing lots of floor time (he was a key instrument to our offensive outburst in the 2nd quarter last night, btw).
padgett is a more advanced player than novak. he is a WAY better rebounder, which is very important for this team. he shoots a very nice % from 2's and 3's. he's not afriad to mix it up a little by hustling, boxing out, or bodying someone on defense. novak is a shooter, an amazing shooter, but that's it. he isn't ready for rotation minutes yet. padgett has done a nice job this year.
hooray for 8 million threads on the same thing. We've all replied on this at some point. While you're learning to read other threads.. also learn to format using paragraphs if you're gonna write a bunch of sentences that run together.
I am not a Van Gundy hater by any stretch of the imagination, but I wouldn’t be sad if he wasn’t our coach anymore. With that said, I don’t think he is a motivator at all; and he most certainly isn’t a developer of talent. Bonzi may never be motivated under any coach; but Adleman sure got something out of him. Hubbie Brown was able to get production out of him. I think it comes down to Gundy not wanting him on this team. So, he will make him miserable enough to say something in the public so Gundy wont look like the bad guy yet again. I wish I was on Rome so I could say, “War Bonzi choking Gundy ala Sprewell”. Not really, but it does make you think.
Not sure what Gundy was thinking in using Alston on the inbounds - perhaps our best option on a loft pass to Yao? Gundy probably will never share his thinking so we can speculate forever. Maybe everyone else sucks at inbound passes? Maybe Gundy wanted our slowest guys getting tied up and unable to receive the inbound pass? Maybe his meds had worn off and he wasn't thinking clearly. Lots of possibilities.
Ha ha. Watching the last few minutes of the Spurs game, I became convinced that Scott "Not Novak" Padgett was destined to become this bbs' new Ryan Bowen.
The thing is, the type of players that you call below average are still in the NBA for a reason. Like you said, their talent doesn't match up to that of their peers. But talent's not the reason these type of guys are in the NBA - work ethic is. And if you remember what the Rockets played like before JVG, you'll understand why they chose him to take the reigns - his work ethic. If all talented players played with RyBo-esque dedication, Flyin' Ryan would've been Flyin' To Europe years ago. Basically, with Van Gundy as your team's coach, PT allocation all comes down to this question: Would you rather have great players playing below their maximum abilities or good players playing above theirs?
Well, those threads are pretty bad for the eyes of anyone who stares at the computer all day. As for BBS's Bowen, it's sad, because Padgett's been decent this year with the exception of a few minutes in San Antonio. The Novak loving is what's bringing this issue up, because he's done nothing but help the team so far.
EXACTLY! These players are also players that you can build chemistry with! That's why players like David Wesley and others were able to have productive years undrafted. These players have hard work ethics and by playing them, any responsible NBA players that are losing minutes because of it should see it as an opportunity to work harder and better themselves. There are two ways to look at losing minutes when you're the better athlete. You can either 1) work harder and make your case, or 2) pout about it and whine. You don't spoil people just because they're good. It creates lockerroom problems. Regardless of what people are saying here, JVG's team seems to play behind the coach and are happy to push JVG's defense speech all over the media whenever asked of them. He's got them thinking defensively and only if you agree with it do you continue to express that to the press. You can't expect each player's feelings to be addressed. You can send them to psyciatrists for that. JVG's job is to get the team to a winning level, and he's doing just that.
I like Pagget but Jeff should give Novak some try when we really hard to score. Kier in Bull, in Spurs, he come out from bentch and score to help the team. We need a player like that.
padgett's box numbers look pretty good, but many times he looks like he dsnt belong. just like shane contributes in ways you cant see in the box score scotty has streches where he looks like all he is worth are a few fouls.
Yeah, JVG NEVER played Chuck Hayes or Luther Head last year. I'm not a big Padgett fan by any means, but our starting PF is injured. Perhaps Padgett is a better defender/is stronger/knows the offense better/sets better screens/plays better pick and roll defense. I have no idea...but neither do you, as you don't attend practices either...
