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Jeff Van Gundy

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by fstrada, Mar 4, 2003.

  1. fstrada

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    If the Rockets flounder the rest of the season. Rudy T will be the scape goat. Do you see the Rockets making that move and how about bringing Jeff Van Gundy to the Rockets bench. He will bring dicipline to the team and feed the ball to Yao and make the Rockets GAME PLAN better.
     
  2. wizkid83

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    Let's not go through this again, wait a second why am I responding, omg my fingers have a mind of their own.
     
  3. Bogey

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    I've never understood why people have this facination with Van Gundy. What exactly has he done in this league?
     
  4. Bookit

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    Uh, he teaches defense?
     
  5. rockyymf

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    JVG is a loser. Rudy at least won 2 championships for rox. We need someone better than Rudy, not worse.
     
  6. Bogey

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    Uh, so did Rudy when he had Dream?
     
  7. A-Train

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    He lost a fight to Alonzo Mourning's leg...
     
  8. DreamWeaver

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    LMAO. At least that was a better fight than the last Tyson's fiasco. :)

    Why bother with Van Gundy when you can get Pat Riley......
     
  9. hikanoo49

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    What about Bobby Knight? That guy will get our troops straightened out.. :)
     
  10. A-Train

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    Pat Riley?? Screw that. Riley is one of the most overrated coaches of all time. He has mutated and mutilated the usually beautiful game of basketball into a painful, horrendous game. Take a look at the lowest scoring games in the past 10 years, and I'll bet my left nut that most of them involve a Riley coached team...

    Oh, and hikanoo....Bob Knight once said, and I'm paraphrasing here because I can't remember the exact quote..."If there was an NBA game on channel 4 and some frogs sitting in a branch on channel 5, I'd rather watch channel 5" He would never coach an NBA team, and personally I think he would fail miserably like just about every other college coach has done in the NBA...
     
  11. tbui

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    Jeff Van Gundy has proven that he can coach at the professional level scraping together an undersized Knicks team to an NBA final and several conference finals. Van Gundy is known for a physical style of play and a concept of good team play. The Knicks teams of the Mid 90's to early millienium showed a great ability to defend and distribute the ball well, facilitating scoring. Van Gundy would be a good option if Rudy T does not take the Rockets into the playoffs.
     
  12. JayZ750

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    What exactly had Rudy T. accomplished when he got the coaching position?

    There are a couple of truths on the table. The first is that this team lacks leadership. The second, is that the lack of leadership is either due to Steve Francis' inability to change his game and lead as a true PG should, given that it's his position, or due to Rudy T.'s inability to lead properly as a coach from a sideline.

    Aside from convincing Jason Kidd he needs to leave NJ and play for us, and trading Francis for him in a sign and trade deal, I think you have to look at Rudy T being gone next season. Van Gundy may not be the answer, but he has consistently overachieved with the talent he had, teaches good defense, and, seemingly, fundamental, sound offense. Most importantly, though, he is just someone different.

    As a side note, even if the team says they're sticking with Francis and back his play 100%, etc., etc. over the summer, if they don't even make a move/try and negotiate with Kidd, they are stupid. Kidd would automatically take all the talents on this team and meld it together in a seemless fashion. He would fit in perfectly with Mobley, who's always looking to score anyway, would be a great pick and roll combo with Yao, and may actually start to help Eddie improve his offensive game. Kidd won't be winning a championship with the Nets anytime soon, and as the saying goes, you need really good bigman play to have a great team in this league, and Yao becomes a very big draw for a PG like Kidd who still has 5+ years of solid play in him right at his prime. Oh well, just daydreaming.
     
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    I would rather have Mike Frat. on the bench more than Gundy. Both are looking to get back in the coaching system. It's really a matter of picking your poison.
     
  14. tbui

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    You never trade good young players with for good old players in professional sports. Kidd has, as you said, has 5 years left of greatness in him. The proposed idea here is illogical. Kidd for Mobley and other players such as Taylor, Griffin--is improbable, but a more feasible option for the rockets.
     
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    If the players are of the same quality, yes. But Kidd is, without a doubt, the best PG in the league right now, head and shoulders above the rest, and has been for 2 years. Kidd is to the PG position what a healthy Shaq is to the C position, imo, at this point in his career. But Kidd hasn't won anything you say...neither did Shaq, until Kobe matured and they had 2 great players. In terms of pure PG skills, imo, Jason Kidd ranks up there with Magic and John Stockton. A couple of championships, which would come following a move to Houston, would cement that. As Kidd gets to the downside of his career in 5 years, Yao would seriosuly be dominating, and Kidd could still play a solid game, like what Stockton currently does. And to top it all off, Kidd is the type of player that will make Rudy look like a genious, instaed of an idiot. He plays a savvy game and all Rudy has to do is guide and mentally prepare, not babysit (which Rudy is not very good at)

    But alas, it is all a pipedream anyway.
     
  16. SageHare6

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    Mike Fratello belongs on Infomercials and NOT the Rox bench.
    Who knows? I personally think the authoritarian style of Van Gundy would resonate well with Rox players. I can't see the Rox ever becoming a primed offensive team like Dallas or Sac. I DO see the Rox one day leading the league as the top defensive team in the NBA. Couple that with the Rox as a mediocre to above average offensive team and we're looking at the top spots in the West. Van Gundy can make that happen. He's an "East Coast D" philosophy kinda guy who can give us a competitive adv in the Midwest and West.

    :p

    theSAGE
     
  17. LiTtLeY1521

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    Why don't we sign all of them?!? :(
     
  18. SageHare6

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    If we sign all of them, who's left to call the games on TNT?

    And "No, I will not accept Hanna Storm" as an acceptable sub.

    :d

    theSAGE
     
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    Van Gundy is the answer. If he could tame Spreewell and bring the undersized knicks to the NBA final, he can hava a shot here. This team needs someone that can whip the crap out of the sturbbon guards, and play less iso.
     
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    What the hell are you talking about? The only reason Rudy won 2 championships is cuz we had some pretty good teams in those years, with dream and all. Who did Van Gundy have? EVER? When Alan Houston is the best player on your team that's pretty sad. You can make all the joke you want about how the Knicks suck and all, but when Van Gundy was coaching, the Knicks made the playoffs I think every year. Ironically after Van Gundy was fired they stopped making the playoffs and are in the lottery every year. So who can't coach again?
     

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