1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Jabari Smith…Nice Complementary Player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AggieRocketFan96, Jun 17, 2025 at 11:28 AM.

  1. AggieRocketFan96

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2003
    Messages:
    953
    Likes Received:
    366
    Yeah another Jabari thread…look he’s a nice role player no doubt but I don’t see him becoming a max-level star. I think he will be a solid 4th option type player maybe even Robert Horry-like minus the multiple championship rings but like Horry, always a good trade chip that should bring in some value.

    Bundle him with Cam, the 10th pick, and maybe even Jalen along with Jock & Tate to free up spots and get some instant impact value! Let’s go!!!!
     
    shakes05 likes this.
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,643
    Likes Received:
    38,877
    He was underutilized, he is actually developing quite nicely into a very solid complimentary 3 and D player.

    Not a number 1 option but a solid number 2 or 3....worth keeping.

    Would trade Jalen for a half eaten bag of doritos....but Jabari is a truck of Takis.....

    DD
     
    Arnel, BigShasta, bluffkin and 6 others like this.
  3. AggieRocketFan96

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2003
    Messages:
    953
    Likes Received:
    366
    He’s definitely a nice 2-way player but I just don’t see him having that “eye of the tiger” and certainly can’t see him as a 2nd or even 3rd option. Just doesn’t have the consistent killer attitude but that’s ok. He’s a lesser Robert Horry and will play in the league for 10+ years but he’s not the kind of player to build around. He’s a “nice to have” type of player but if trading him away upgrades the roster or gets a true 1st/2nd option type player then do it!
     
    shakes05 likes this.
  4. xaos

    xaos Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2015
    Messages:
    6,609
    Likes Received:
    16,458
    Let's trade him for Sam Elliott
     
    desihooper likes this.
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,643
    Likes Received:
    38,877
    Really? Attitude? He is always getting involved in scrapes on the floor - I see his attitude as great - but I don't think he is great at recognizing things on the court, but he is only 21....so.....yeah..

    DD
     
    Arnel, bluffkin and harold bingo like this.
  6. Aruba77

    Aruba77 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 1999
    Messages:
    15,335
    Likes Received:
    18,630
    I agree he doesnt have star potential but at this point we need to prioritize moving Jalen over Bari. Jalen’s contract really cuts against his value on the market and I’m not sure he ends up a better player than Bari long term. I think there’s more development runway for Bari being a year and a half younger. He also projects to be a better shooter, which fits better with our two franchise pieces in Sengun and Amen. Folks should feel good about getting off Jalen’s near max deal as part of a KD trade. I don’t think I’d feel good about including Bari in a KD trade, but I guess it depends on what else would be included.
     
  7. Kevooooo

    Kevooooo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2014
    Messages:
    5,888
    Likes Received:
    4,882
    Don’t see him becoming a max level star but that doesn’t mean he isn’t extremely valuable and necessary for a championship squad. He defends, shoots, and rebounds.

    I am excited to see what he adds to his game this season.
     
    majicdonjuan, Arnel, bluffkin and 2 others like this.
  8. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    46,483
    Likes Received:
    11,734
    I'm not trying to be negative, just asking the question:

    If Jabari adds very little or nothing this coming season, what would your opinion be of him?
     
    leebigez likes this.
  9. Kevooooo

    Kevooooo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2014
    Messages:
    5,888
    Likes Received:
    4,882
    That he’s a great complimentary player that you never have to plan shots or plays for and will still make winning plays. I think he already does that. Whatever he can add is just a sweetener.

    He’s obviously nowhere near a max player at this stage and hard to see him adding enough to be a true max worthy player but unfortunately players are overpaid often just to get them. I don’t see us overpaying him. I do see another team doing it though.
     
  10. RB713

    RB713 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2024
    Messages:
    3,135
    Likes Received:
    4,232
    Welcome to the modern NBA, where the top 3 picks might not even crack the starting lineup.
     
    don grahamleone likes this.
  11. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    113,989
    Likes Received:
    175,583
    Rockets have a bunch of nice complimentary role players.
     
  12. charlieaustin

    charlieaustin Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    1,602
    Likes Received:
    1,302
    Because the players taken at the top of the draft nowadays are so young drafted on potential. There are going to be many misses compared to the past when players stayed in college longer giving a larger sample size to see who they really are.
     
    Arnel, leebigez and RB713 like this.
  13. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    99,026
    Likes Received:
    48,878
    I would give him another year to show he is at least borderline AS worthy.......those KD workouts don't impress me until he can cross over NBA forwards.

    Keep Bari at all cost because I do think KD can show him a few of his own tricks....

    Trade Jaberry only when Giannis is made available.

    KD is the archetype that Bari can at least strive for.
     
  14. meh

    meh Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    16,169
    Likes Received:
    3,369
    A lot of disconnect among fans is how one fantasize a player to be rather than who he has been so far. Jabari has been a below-average 3pt shooter with advanced defensive metrics putting him maybe an average team defender. But he can make fans fantasize that he becomes a OG Anonuby type super 3&D guy. When based on his NBA history, he projects more to be a future Dillon Brooks type.

    To me this is where the Rockets front office must be able to make the right read. Is he the dead eye shooter and potential all-world defender that made him the #3 pick? Or the mediocre shooter and decent defender he's shown in the NBA past 3 years? Cause as a fan I personally don't know.
     
  15. Kevooooo

    Kevooooo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2014
    Messages:
    5,888
    Likes Received:
    4,882
    E
    there is certainly a lot of that (drafted purely on potential) but I feel like that’s been the case for decades. Players used to come straight out of high school. Now they stay one year at college. Long gone are the days of 3-4 year players that are really good. The money is too good. Can’t risk injury. Maybe NIL could change that but doubt it.
     
    charlieaustin likes this.
  16. Kevooooo

    Kevooooo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2014
    Messages:
    5,888
    Likes Received:
    4,882
    I don’t think you can always trust analytics. And I think players see and sense better than a stat sheet. The fact that several Warriors players called out Jabari’s “veteran-like” performance speaks volumes, in my eyes.
     
    Plowman and Arnel like this.
  17. mightybosstone

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2014
    Messages:
    3,584
    Likes Received:
    6,151
    Of the young guys, I'd probably say Bari has the third highest value right now behind Amen and Sengun. He's only 21, and he's already one of our best shooters and defenders. He's behind maybe only Amen for me in terms of defensive versatility. And his spacing and length make him a matchup nightmare for opposing teams.

    He may never become a superstar, but you don't dump every player on your roster just because they're not putting up 25 points a night. If he could settle into a solid 15/9/2/1/1 guy with above average shooting and efficiency on top of his defensive skills, that's a really solid player to have and someone most teams would kill to add to their roster. He shouldn't demand max dollars on his next contract, either, barring a massive leap in Year 4. So if I'm Stone, I do everything in my power not to move this kid until I absolutely had to.
     
  18. PhiSlammaJamma

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 1999
    Messages:
    29,905
    Likes Received:
    8,007
    You have to wait it out. It's too early, but he's more than likely a role player. His length and competitive nature allow him to contribute as a starter.
     
  19. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    99,026
    Likes Received:
    48,878
    Most stars enjoyed a breakout season at some point offensively.......

    He doesn't get the touches under Udoker so the chances here are slim......and sometimes she shies away from volume scoring.

    Those hybrids have identity crises, that is kind of expected.
     
    #19 daywalker02, Jun 17, 2025 at 1:08 PM
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2025 at 1:13 PM
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,643
    Likes Received:
    38,877
    Jabari is an efficient role player, we need his shooting, he won't be a star, but so what, he can knock down shots consistently and defend.

    DD
     
    Arnel and glimmertwins like this.

Share This Page