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Iverson out of Philly?

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  1. Franchise2001

    Franchise2001 Contributing Member

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    With Sixers Season Over,
    Questions Surround Iverson

    By ROB MAADDI
    .c The Associated Press

    PHILADELPHIA (May 4) -- Larry Brown plans to return to the Philadelphia 76ers. Allen Iverson's future isn't so clear.

    One day after the defending Eastern Conference champions were eliminated by the Boston Celtics in the first round of the playoffs, Brown indicated that Iverson, last season's NBA MVP, could be traded if he doesn't change his ways.

    "My problems with Allen have been the same for six years,'' Brown said Saturday. "I love him, his competitiveness. I'm proud of the way he tries in every game. The issues are things he has control over and he'll have a problem with me if he doesn't take care of it. He has to be at practice. He has to set an example. He knows that if he's willing to do that, he'll be a Sixer for life.''

    Iverson nearly was sent to Detroit after the 1999-2000 season, but the trade fell apart because former Sixer Matt Geiger, who was part of the multiple-player deal, refused to waive a no-trade kicker in his contract.

    Scorned by the rumors, Iverson vowed he'd be a team player on the court and a leader off it. For the most part, he fulfilled his promise, won the MVP award and helped the Sixers reach the NBA Finals for the first time in 18 years, before losing to the Los Angeles Lakers.

    But Iverson reverted to his old ways this season. He waited until the week before training camp started to have surgery on his right elbow and missed the first five games -- guard Aaron McKie waited until the same day to have surgery on his shoulder and missed the first four games.

    Iverson often missed practices, sometimes using lame excuses. More than once, he didn't show up to practice because he said his son, Deuce, was sick. He sat out practice the day before Game 3 against the Celtics because of a cold.

    Though he led the league in scoring for the third time, Iverson took bad shots often, and didn't always get his teammates involved in the offense.

    "I don't want to look at repercussions,'' Brown said. "I'm looking at a kid who wants to win, and says he doesn't have a selfish bone in his body. I heard him say he wants to be the first to practice and that last to leave, so now do it.''

    Iverson didn't speak to reporters after clearing out his locker, but some of his teammates believe his relationship with Brown still can be worked out.

    "It's been five years and it isn't any better. It isn't any worse, so they can coexist,'' point guard Eric Snow said. "The issue is between coach and Allen. It affects them. It doesn't affect the players as individuals.''

    Center Dikembe Mutombo said perhaps he will try to help Brown and Iverson solve their differences.

    "We're all human,'' he said.

    Whether Iverson stays or not, Brown and general manager Billy King have a lot of work to do to get the Sixers back atop the East.

    Philadelphia's problems this season were largely due to injuries -- Iverson missed 22 games, Snow missed 21, McKie sat out 34 and forward Derrick Coleman was out for 24. The entire team didn't practice together until the playoffs.

    Still, the Sixers clearly need faster, more athletic players. They also need more versatility and better shooters from the outside. The Celtics advanced because they shot 19-for-29 from 3-point range in Game 5.

    "We're going to figure out a way to get better,'' Brown said. "We had no control over injuries. When I saw our training camp, I knew this would be an uphill battle.

    "We're going to do everything we can to make it better. We're going to do everything we can to make guys do it the right way and if they're not going to do that, they're not going to be here.''

    Despite falling three victories short of winning a championship last year, the Sixers made major changes in the offseason, bringing back just six players.

    They could make even more moves this year, starting with Iverson.
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    Would you trade Mobley, KT, and our lotter pick for Iverson?

    PG: Francis
    SG: Iverson
    SF: Rice
    PF: Taylor
    C: Cato
    6th man: Griffin/Moochie


    I don't know if this trade would ever go through but it looks good on here.. a Francis/Iverson backcourt = unstoppable. Iverson would have to realize that there are other superstars on the court. Unlike Mobley, he can flat out play D. Damn, the AI/Wink fast break would be even faster than the Clyde/Maxwell fast break used to be.

    Honestly, I doubt Philly would do this trade, unless we drafted J.Wll or Dejuan Wagner for them. Plus I have no clue if this trade would go down because of salaries.
     
  2. Rocketability

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    AI's a cancer. NO!
     
  3. XBeams

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    I would. A Franchise and A.I. Backcourt would be incredible. And Besides that, it would also bring alot of fans to the actual games. Steve and Allen also share the same Reebok brand, so that could also bring some $$$ .
     
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    <i>"Damn, the AI/Wink fast break would be even faster than the Clyde/Maxwell fast break used to be. " </i>

    Clyde and Maxwell didn't play together. Maxwell started crying after the trade because he had lost his starting spot, and I believe he was left off the playoff roster.

    Steve and Iverson would be a great backcourt to watch, but I don't think we'd ever get far in the playoffs with that.
     
  5. mr_oily

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    I heard Iverson will more than likely end up in Detroit as originally planned, if not then New York is looking at doing a trade fer pick thing.:cool:
     
  6. arno_ed

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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

    please not Iverson, i hate him he isn't good, he just shoots alot. if he will play here the rockets will not win more than if we have a healthy team. I want to see who the rockets will pick. but please don't trade for iverson.
     
  7. lpbman

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    40+ point playoff games


    Allen Iverson: 8

    Steve Francis: 0
    Cuttino Mobley: 0
    Eddie Griffin: 0
     
  8. german rocketfan

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    Why Not?

    Try This One:
    Taylor 6,500,000 $
    Mobley 4,413,000 $
    Pick Nr.5

    FOR

    Iverson 10,000,000 $
     
  9. arno_ed

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    Any playoff game

    Iverson: 45
    Francis:0
    Mobley:0
    Griffin:0
    faire comparisment.

    And look at shots taken per game and FG%.

    Iverson: 27,8 points per shot: 1,13
    Francis: 17,6 points per shot: 1,23
    mobley: 18,4 points per shot: 1,18
    Griffin: 9,1 points per shot: 0,97

    both Francis and mobley score more points per shot.

    Francis is a better all round player. and iverson can't do anything but shoot and shoot.
     
  10. JayZ750

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    AI averaged 5.5 apg and 4.5 rpg, along with his 2.8 spg. He can do more than shoot. He does shot a lot, but that was the way his team was set-up. I can remember plenty of games where the Sixers won when Iverson shot even more (at same or lower percentage) and passed less, and games where they lost when he scored 24 on something like 17 shots, and had a lot of assists but they lost.

    Not that I'd do that trade, but Iverson could improve any team.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Forget it,

    He is not a winner, and is NOT dedicated to being a professional. All we need is a cancer like AI to come in here and show the young guys that it is ok to skip team meetings and practices, and to NOT listen to the coach.

    Why are the Lakers winning now? Because they LISTEN to their coach, and play together......AI does not do that...he is a warrior but not a team player and NO ONE wins a championship in basketball by themselves.

    NO ONE !!

    DaDakota
     

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