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It's all Bush's fault

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Jan 15, 2007.

  1. basso

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    http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/14/070114230239.dh0wbbv7.html

    [rquoter] Economists are hastily upgrading their forecasts for the US economy after a series of surprisingly strong reports suggesting the so-called "soft landing" may be over and growth is accelerating.

    Over the past week, surprises have come in stronger-than-expected reports on US job creation, the trade balance and retail sales -- all key contributors to economic activity.

    Lehman Brothers chief US economist Ethan Harris on Friday boosted his forecast for fourth quarter 2006 growth to an annualized rate of 3.3 percent, a leap from the firm's prior call for just 2.0 percent growth.

    "After slowing in November, the economy seems to have regained its stride," Harris said.

    "With the last of the major data in, we are now revising fourth quarter GDP to an above-trend 3.3 percent. A wide range of indicators have been stronger than expected. Most important have been the strong consumption data and the surprising improvement in the trade balance."

    The latest data defy predictions that the slump in real estate would filter into other areas of the economy, notably consumer spending.

    The latest data showed US employers added a healthy 167,000 new jobs in December, with unemployment holding at a low 4.5 percent. Average wages were up 4.2 percent annually.

    A separate report Friday showed US retail sales increased 0.9 percent in December.

    Retail sales are closely watched as consumer spending accounts for about two-thirds of US economic activity. Some analysts have theorized that slumping housing prices may crimp spending in a reversal of the so-called wealth effect.

    The higher retail sales "will juice up overall real growth in the fourth quarter to about 3.0 percent -- a substantial improvement from only 2.0 percent in the third quarter" said Brian Bethune at research firm Global Insight.

    Even the US trade deficit, long a source of weakness, improved in the latest report to 58.2 billion dollars in November, as exports increased.

    The data have eased pressure on the dollar and lifted the stock market to fresh highs.

    The downside of the data is that it means the Federal Reserve is unlikely to cut interest rates soon. And some say the Fed, which has been warning about inflation, could maintain its bias toward rate hikes or even increase rates at some point in 2007.

    But some analysts say the strong data may be distorted by mild weather and drops in energy costs.

    "Some of this strength, however, should prove illusory," said Wachovia Securities economists in a research note.

    "Housing and motor vehicle production are still major drags on output, with residential construction expected to slice another percentage point off fourth quarter growth and declines in motor vehicle output slicing off another percentage point."

    Wachovia expects GDP growth "to slow to around a two percent pace in 2007 and look for a string of seven consecutive quarters of GDP growth below three percent," the report said.

    "Most of this slowing reflects the unraveling of the housing boom, which we believe still has a way to go. Consumer spending will also pack less punch but will post modest gains."

    Wachovia said whether the slowdown is enough to allow the Federal Reserve to cut interest rates in 2007 "has become an open question."

    "The expansion looks far less precarious than it did even a few weeks ago," the economists said. "Provided economic conditions do not take a decided turn for the worse, a Fed ease will likely require a substantial lessoning of inflationary concerns."

    Harris at Lehman Brothers said "a natural question is whether the solid fourth-quarter growth is a fluke."

    He said data could be distorted by things such as the introduction of the new Windows Vista operating system, shifts in holiday shopping patterns, problems in the auto sector, the plunge in energy prices and unusually warm winter weather.

    "However, looking closely at these factors on net they argue for more, not less strength in the first quarter of 2007," he said. [/rquoter]
     
  2. giddyup

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    I thought the Saints won?
     
  3. RocketMan Tex

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    Would you like fries with that job creation?

    :rolleyes:
     
  4. MadMax

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    i can not believe the Fed would even consider raising interest rates again. geez, enough already, guys.
     
  5. Major

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    They won't. They just need to scare people into thinking they will so the stock market doesn't go nutty. If the stock market thinks they Fed is going to lower rates (as was the case the last few months), then if the market doesn't lower rates, the market goes haywire and drops. If the Fed keeps people thinking they might raise rates, it keeps the market from placing all its bets the other way. It's actually smart for the Fed to keep things up in the air.
     
  6. mc mark

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    Good News for the economy!

    Just think how much stronger America would be if Bush didn't have his little war.

    The War In Iraq Costs

    $3.5 billion so far...

    Instead, we could have hired 6,214,111 additional public school teachers for one year.

    Instead, we could have paid for 47,493,113 children to attend a year of Head Start.

    Instead, we could have insured 214,714,424 children for one year.

    Instead, we could have provided 17,382,839 students four-year scholarships at public universities.

    Instead, we could have built 3,228,615 additional housing units.

    http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182

     
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    The War in Iraq...

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  8. ymc

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    I wish this is true but I heard it is closer to US$400,000,000,000, no? :confused:
     
  9. jo mama

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    i think you mean 350 billion. we spend 8 billion a month. but either way, yes it is a butt-load of cash. at least halliburton is doing well though, right?

    i think the real question is...WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?
     
  10. jo mama

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    in george w. bush's america we call these "manufacturing" jobs.

    (it would be funny if it wasnt true)
     
  11. mc mark

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    typos and wine don't mix!

    :eek:
     
  12. Rule0001

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    your'e right... why can't machines do this job? LOLOL
     
  13. halfbreed

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    Like the money would have gone there either way... :rolleyes:

    They could have also just not spent that money. Throwing money at our problems doesn't work. This includes war. We can't just spend money and expect to win you have to be smart about it, which we haven't been so far.
     
  14. deepblue

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    This is the standard reply here in d&d:

    when there is bad news, we jump all over Bush and kill him.
    when there is some good news, we will still blast him.

    Yup you are right, it's all Bush's fault.
     
  15. Dairy Ashford

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    Great, other people's children and the homeless; probably the two things less popular than an unsuccessful war. Of course, apathy like mine, multiplied by 200 million, is probably the best case there is in favor of large taxes and social programs: just take it out of my check and deal with it, thanks (waves hand in shooing motion).
     
  16. Dairy Ashford

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    Standard reply at the Bush White House:

    When there is bad news, lie.
    When there is good news, exaggerate its impact to obscure the mistakes.
    When you're confused or caught, smirk and grin like a f*cking r****d (am I the only one sick and tired of that)?
     
  17. deepblue

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    My point exactly :rolleyes:
     
  18. mc mark

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    Gotta love that compassionate conservatism.


    ;)
     
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    It can't be that low. I thought it was at least a hundred billion by now.
     
  20. mc mark

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    It isn't that low! I stand corrected. It's more like 400 billion.






    As has been noted before here, one shouldn't post while inebriated.
     

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