Its about friggin time

"This is not a War against Islam."- President George W. Bush


Mmmmmmmmmmm-kay!

 

Wow, you're a turd...

 

Are you serious?

 

Well that's going to go over real well with the locals.

 

What better way to endear yourself to locals in a country that you are occupying than to bomb a holy place?

I don't know all the details but this sounds very unwise. The more angry Iraqis are at us, the more dangerous that will make things for our troops who have to be there. We knew that Sadr was in the mosque, why not wait for him to come out, and get him then.

As to the original post in this thread why is about friggin time that we bombed a mosque in the middle east? I hope you didn't mean it to sound like we should have been bombing mosques all over the middle east for a while now.

By referring to all of the middle east as a hellhole, I'm guessing that you haven't been there.

 

new military agenda.

Conversion

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if we started sending opium in the country to dumb up the masses.

 

Would it be wrong to assume that many of the attacks are being orgainzed in mosques? I completely agree with you that this could just lead to more anger from the Iraqis. But from what I've been reading, some of these mosques sound more like terrorist headquarters than holy places.

 

I think there are some mosques that are used that way. I agree that the burnt Americans was horrible. My main concern is that by attacking mosques it will only foster an attitude where people would support those that burn Americans and not discourage it from happening again.

It's good to go after those responsible, but I think there are better times and places to do it than now inside a mosque. I think going after this guy now might make him appear as a martyr especially if we bombed a mosque while going after him.

Wait for him to go out, and then get him then, would be my strategy. But what's done is done, and for the sake of our troops I hope it works out for the best.

 

I don't doubt that some mosques are being used this way. But I still think if we know that this stuff goes on inside of them we can still get the people responsible outside of the mosques.

If there was ever a need to actually go after a mosque the best way to do it would be to get the people on your side show them the care and trouble you go to not to attack mosque's. Get the people all the services they need such as garbage, electricity, build more schools, hospitals etc. Then point out that you could do even more if attacks weren't coming from militants using the mosque as a headquarters. Use Iraqis to negotiate with those inside the mosques or convince them to set up headquarters elsewhere. It might take longer, but I think it would be safer for our forces over there, and the end result would still be the destruction of the militants.

 

You might not care, but you aren't really in a position to be a danger to our troops. And if you don't care where he dies why not let him die outside of a holy sight? As you said dead is dead, and he will still be dead. In addition you would cut down on the risk of future slaughter of Americans by angry Iraqis if they dont' have as much reason to be angry. That is the purpose right?

 

That's the problem with fighting the war on terror like its the cold war, and the same fatal mistake that President Bush is making.

There's not a finite number of terrorists where if you just kill them all, they go away.

Each time you kill one and blow up a mosque or kill a civillian, or whatever, you create 5 or 10 more in the future.

It's a vicious cycle that essentially does not end. Just ask Israel. And the worst part is, unlike Israel, we brought it on ourselves by unilaterally invading Iraq.

 

Actually it's debatable how much we have tried to handle this in a way that didn't piss off the Iraqis. The Brits for example have done things where they are aware of and respectful of the culture, (not barging into homes at night until the women have a chance before the women have a chance to cover their heads and faces). There troops have had significantly less resistance and casualties in areas controlled by them. These are small things that aren't hard to do, and can make a difference

 

There is a arab parabel that goes something like this.

A young arab boy runs in to see his father and says, "father, father, our rival clan just stole our dog"

The father replies " Get the dog back"

The family does nothing, and a week later his son comes running in.. "Father father, our rival clan just stole our goats"

The father replies "Get the dog back"

One more week goes by, and the son runs in...."Father father, our rival clan just stole 2 of our daughters"

The father replies "Get the dog back"


The only thing these people understand is force, you can not appear soft or they will continue to try to undermine your efforts.

If there are enemies in the mosque then I am glad we bombed the mosque, we need to show them we are serious.

DD

 

The weird thing is that Bush says it is not against the muslim religion, but it really is......that religion is screwed up.

Having women as subservient, and covering their bodies...ridiculous in the modern world.

The Muslim religion is a joke.

DD

 

We had to burn the village to save it.