Thanks, Jam. On the 3 switches of Kobe from Francis to Bull, do you remember the results? Also, HeyPee, in the 4th, LA doubled Steve on the perimeter, leaving Bull open on the wing for a three. They did it twice and Bull hit one. Do you have a name for that situation or option? ------------------
I can't remember the outcomes of the bull pick/switch the pick/Fox on Francis plays off the top of my head. For some reason, I *think* that they happened in the 1st quarter and I *think* they may have been a part of the four Francis ISOs late in the 1st quarter. From 2:50 to 1:25 remaining in the first, we had 4 Francis ISOs. Two of those were successful Dream jumpers. Does anybody remember how Dream got those open jumpers? I think some of those Dream jumpers might have come from the fox/francis mismatch ISO (but I don't remember how.) little help? I'm just barely able to scribble down the result and the time during the game. I should start recording how the ISO developed, as well. Maybe if I could get some help from my seatmate (*ahem*) we could record what defensive strategy generated the ISO. (If the fakers don't switch the Bull pick, the ISO never develops). [This message has been edited by jamcracker (edited November 08, 2000).]
Awesome report. Your Mobley **-footnote is what I call the 2 Mo Shakes play. The power forward is to go to the low post or, sometimes, the high post. I believe 2 Shakes was very oddly defended last night, so there were some quirky things to report. I had 2 Shakes at 5-9 because I counted the top of the key play in the end against Rider as a Rudy-improvised 2 Shakes. I believe Rudy called that in response to the Laker defense. The defense against 2 Shakes in the 4th was to do a very high trap against Mobley, who only once attempted to take on the trap by going baseline. Mobley would passively pass way out high making it very difficult for us to get something going before the defense could regroup from the double team. Rudy's only response to that without practice time against it was to isolate Mobes on Rider above the key. Mobley got fouled twice in succession by Rider. This was a key to the win, because the Laker's defense really clamped down on all our options in the 4th,,,and we needed desparately to get some good chances. Count on Rudy to go to Mobley whenever he wants a simple-to-execute possession that can get a good chance at a high clip. Expect a different response to the high trap if we see it again. I really am beginning to see movements by Rudy to take the 2 Shakes crutch away from the team. Moe I distinctly remember those two shots by Bullard. He was wide open in front of the Laker bench. At that point in the 4th Q I was losing my mind cheering and worrying about a Laker defensive clampdown. I didn't tape the game. I do recall that the Laker defense was very active and intent on pressing the issue. For about a 4-5 minute stretch, we didn't accomplish anything we wanted to. My guess is Bullard got wide open simply because the Lakers left him to force the action by doubling the ball. For those who believe Shandon should run some plays, he had a miserable game, especially in the 4th quarter. Two air balls and two sickly poor passes from dribbling into trouble. Give credit to the Lakers. Their defense can be outstanding, and they got us scrambling in the 4th for a good stretch. But we prevailed. That showed me a lot of character. Kobe can definitely brick the ball with the best of them, can't he? His defense is what makes him a standout star, not his offense, imo. His drives into the lane for sweet finger-rolls really should get assists from Shaq for commanded so much attention. Can you imagine if Rudy had Shaq to take pressure away from Mobley's drives? Mobley would be an instant 20ppg all-star. Who really believes Kobe has a better jumper than Mobley, or even has better shot selection? <font size="1">btw...these questions comparing Mobes offense to Kobes are just a test being conducted by the public broadblasting system,,,this is only a test.
a little perspective: We had 27 ISOs last night (3 were resets and don't count toward the socre) out of 90 possessions (possessions = FGA + TO, right?). 27/90 out of 90 of our possessions ended up as isolations. Of the 27 ISOs, 18 led to a shot. We made 8/18 (44%) of the ISO generated shots. Overall, our FG% was 29/71 (41%). Of course the overall FG% includes the ISO shots. ISOs generated 4 turnovers. (2 each by Francis and Taylor). We had 19 turnovers total. If we run an ISO 27 times out of 90 (30%) possessions, you'd expect that 30% of of turnovers would have come on ISOs. 0.3 * 19 = 5.7. You'd have expected 5.7 turnovers on ISOs. Our turnover rate on ISOs is better than our overall turnover rate. Speaking of Turnovers: Francis had 7 turnovers Kobe had 1
and of course there are cases of 2 shots without an offensive rebound. They involve an inbounds play after a rebound scramble.
ISO's turned into a science.. i kinda like it--- -elie17 ------------------ Oh.. so this is how you add a signature huh? coo coo.
I thought about not couting offensive rebounds, but... Say we take a shot, miss it, get a long rebound, and set up a new play. Why shouldn't that count as two possessions? (am i missing something obvious?)
Oh...I see what you're saying. OK. Just a semantics thing. Normally a possession refers to the whole time you possess the ball, until a "change in possession".
Jam or HeyPee, do one of you guys want to start a thread called total stats or something and copy just the stats of each game into it? As the season goes on, we'll have access to it without having to wade through all the replies. In the first post, you could make it clear that it is not a thread for replies. ------------------
(edited to count floor fouls as successes 11/10/00) Much better tonight: 11 for 25 (44%) Francis: 5 for 10 Dream made jumper 2:50 1 Francis floor fouled (success) 2:20 1 miss jumper 2:07 1 Dream made jumper 1:25 1 Francis floor fouled (success) 6:53 2 Francis offensive foul 3:01 2 missed jumper 8:50 3 * missed 3 ptr 2:55 3 turnover 5:07 4 shandon miss jumper 1:35 4 * initially a Francis ISO, but Dream got tired of watching Francis screw around so he set a strong side pick for Francis with about 3 on the 24 clock. Dream just got in Francis's way by setting that pick, and definitely fouled up the ISO. Mobley: 3 for 7 miss layup 3:35 2 Mo made jumper 1:44 3 * Kenny miss 3 ptr 10:00 4 made layup 9:14 4 miss layup 8:40 4 lakers tip the ball out (reset) 6:24 4 ** miss 3 ptr 5:40 4 shandon shooting fouled 0:55 4 *mobley to francis to taylor for the open jumper ** I noticed a new reaction to the doubleteam: kenny sprinted from the weakside corner to right under the rim. he was open for a slam, but the Lakers tipped the ball out of bounds. Taylor: 3 for 7 made layup 11:00 1 * miss jumper 10:15 1 made jumper 8:35 1 made jumper 3:55 1 reset 4:25 2 travel 10:41 3 miss jumper 6:05 3 24 sec violation 5:05 3 *actually a rebound and putback Thomas: 0 for 1 miss jumper 11:00 2 Most the ISOs last night were cause reacting to the Lakers defense. Bull sets a pick for Francis on the strongside. The Lakers switch on the pick: Fox now guards Francis and Kobe now guards Bull. Now we have a mismatch: Fox on Francis, so Bull clears out, leaving Francis isolated. Kobe has to follow Bull, or Bull's open for a 3. I remember seeing this three times last night (not sure exactly when) and the Lakers switched on the pick EVERY time. I've never seen another team switch the pick that way. We also made a real effort to isolate Taylor against Grant. Taylor was isolated on Grant 3 times in the first 4 minutes of the game and he was 2/3 in that stretch. [This message has been edited by jamcracker (edited November 08, 2000).] [This message has been edited by jamcracker (edited November 10, 2000).]