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Islamic-mein-kampf!...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ROXRAN, Nov 29, 2007.

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  1. ROXRAN

    ROXRAN Member

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    In a prior thread, I brought up the similarities of Nazi Germany/Hitler and Iran with Ahmadinejad just thinking out loud to myself...well, I came across this, and without saying anymore....wow....I am disgusted, and alarmed to say the least. very informative.

    Watch the presentation...see for yourself.

    http://terrorismawareness.org/islamic-mein-kampf/

    (p.s. allow the presentation to run through.< i.e. load > It seems to pause after the flags near the beginning.)
     
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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    I almost stopped as soon as I saw David Horowitz had anything to do with it.

    I'm glad I watched the whole thing.

    I've often wondered who the people were who would actually be influenced and frightened by blatant propaganda, and now I know. That was a hilarious video.
     
  3. giddyup

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    Where was the funny part? It was comprised entirely of citations of Muslim leaders who violently oppose America and Israel.

    Are you charging that things were taken out of context? Have those assertions been reversed by those Muslim leaders?
     
  4. insane man

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    there's one little factual thing that i'd like the iran hawks to address.

    when khatame was president, the incessant cry was iran's president has no power. he doesn't control foreign policy, he doesn't control the military etc. and admittedly that was true. however now ahmedinejad is in the same position. and nothing has changed. and khamenei is still the supreme leader. so how is ahmedinejad impotent yet hitler-esque?

    as far as the video is concerned, typical rubbish from those who created it. that being said, most if not all of those quotes are deeply disturbing and offensive.
     
  5. MadMax

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    FB --

    I don't think we should overblow the threat. But I don't think we should pretend this guy is anything other than trouble to those who would want peace for that region of the world.
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    Would it be hilarious if someone made a similar video of the KKK during its heydey?
     
  7. Dubious

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    The Iranian theocracy thinks it's their devine duty to spread Islamic law. Ahmadinejad is just their spokesperson.

    That's like saying Goerge Forman is the brains behind the electric grill.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    The funny part was that anyone would actually by that these statements would in anyway make Iran comparable to Nazi Germany.

    Some of the things in the video weren't even bad. A guy founded a group for Palestinian nationalism? Wow! we should all hide under our beds in pure fear.

    I'm not familiar with some of the statements, and others were definitely taken out of context and some of the ones by certain Palestinian leaders were taken back.

    People saying things and there being an actual threat of them being carried out two different things. It is hilarious that someone would some out of context, and out of date sayings and try to somehow equate the threat involved to that of Nazi Germany.
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    If they tried to equate the KKK with being able to take over the majority of a continent, then yes it would be hilarious. Because it so completely rediculous and out of proportion to the actual threat.
     
  10. ROXRAN

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    FB, get over it,...the similarity and relationship of Iran with Nazi Germany is stark and plain for all to see.
     
  11. ROXRAN

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    People thought Hitler threatening the world was a ridiculous notion at one time as well...
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    He is trouble, and Iran is a threat to middle east peace. But the U.S. Israel, and Palestinians are much larger threat to those who want peace in the middle east.

    And as much as I hate the Iranian democratic Theocracy, and the President of Iran's denial of the holocaust and blind bigotry, I'm not going to pretend that the threat Iran poses is anything even close to the threat posed by Nazi Germany.

    As children we lived the hype and propaganda that was the cold war, and as adults we've been living through more exaggerated hype and attempts to make people fear and dehumanize. (mushroom clouds over the U.S., Iraq building a weapons program in the time leading up to our invasion).

    I just don't buy into that stuff anymore. I've seen too much. I think Fearing fear itself is potentially more of a threat than Irn, because it allows leaders to do things like start needless wars.
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    Not really. Some people trusted him not to, but nobody doubted that he could really do it or come close.

    In the case of the KKK at their peak or Iran it isn't even close.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    It is plain for all who like to jump at shadows, ghosts, ghouls, boogey men, and other things that don't exist to see.
     
  15. Dubious

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    In just the physical sense Iran could never have the influence over the populations of people that Germany could in central Europe, plus Germany at the time developed a vastly superior war making capacity and technology over her neighbors. Iran in comparison to NATO is an impotent pop fart.

    People produce propaganda like "Ahmadinejad is Hitler" to promote their own agenda's. Iran is a veritable fortress country, we can't stop them from getting 'the bomb', we can't invade them and develop a social democracy of western values. The only real hope for change within the country is from their youth, who I think, would resist theocratic oppression if they didn't think westerners were out to nuke them. The surest way to repress dissent is to galvanize the people against an outside threat.




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  16. ROXRAN

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    It's not close with the efforts to spread the twisted religion? It's not close when the kind of mindset that they endorse led to 9/11? It's not close when the signs of military buildup is evident...

    The scary thing to me is not Iran alone. It is the spread of influence, and what the twisted message is about.
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    Iran is from a branch of Islam that is at odds with branch of Islam practiced by al-Qaeda and the people that carried out 9/11.

    I'm not defending Iran's theocracy and their mindset at all. But to pretend it is on a level with that of Nazi Germany, or even capable of being as big of a threat as Nazi Germany is laughable.
     
  18. ROXRAN

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    Whether at odds or not, it's leaders have asked for the same...the destruction of Israel and the United States.

    As far as laughable, I'm sure there were those who thought of 9/11 as laughable and not something to take seriously enough prior to...

    There is no "odds" over a twisted religious movement wanting essentially the same destruction and where to...regardless of your "branch"...
     
  19. ROXRAN

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    The problem I have is some seem to insinuate that Iran is no threat to the world, but let's take a step back and look at what the threat really is...

    I think we can all say terror is a world-wide issue....A world wide threat if you will...

    Now follow me here....Iran is the rancid perpetuator of Islamic twisted militantism. It doens't matter that there are different so called "branches", what matters is that all these branches are a middle-eastern regional issue.....

    Watching the presentation, I think we all have seen what the leader of Hezbollah has heinously stated...
    Looking at the middle-eastern arena...I can think of only one country which is an extention of hezbollah...and that is Iran.

    Which of the middle-eastern countries dresses up the babies and children with assault weaponry and bombs the most? My bet is Iran...

    Given that you may understand that Islamic driven terror is a worldwide issue, and if you will...a threat....! ....Then please understand it is regional in birth....and if we look at the region, you have to ask which country is the engine of the mindset impacting it's youth most wickedly and extending it's self in other countries with a militant group.....
     
  20. pgabriel

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    I haven't watched this video but just want to address something about hitler. you guys do realize that a lot of people in the 1930s agreed with Hitler, so it wasn't so much as he wasn't a threat.
     

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