Have you noticed that despite your claims to the contrary, you are the only one that ever refers to Bush as Hitler?
People with mental myopia never realize these things. They only hear what they want to hear, and if they never hear it, the voices in their head tell it to them. Pitiful.
That is the equivalent of me posting that the Republiracists are up to their old tricks again, and then post pictures of the Klan or other conservative voters. Nobody who isn't on the marginalized fringe is calling Bush Hitler.
What? No it isn't, lol. You claimed noone was equating Bush with Hitler. These photos conclusively prove your statement is false. That the signs were part of protests with thousands of people belies your further (and completely irrevelant) claim that these people are on the marginalized fringes. These are the same people who are calling Bush a war criminal, lol. Of course, you didn't answer the question posed by the thread, so this is just a nice little distraction. These threads serve a pretty good purpose by contrasting how easily people want to declare Bush a war criminal but don't want to say it about Clinton and Blair - mainly IMO because Clinton and Blair are likeable and relatively well spoken and well thought of despite their mistakes.
Okay - how about this. How many people in HERE have called Bush equal to Hitler? Can you find an example form the foremost left-leaning posters from the CF.net BBS D&D saying that? My point is not to debate Bush and Hitler, or debate that someone somewhere has said that, but to keep the debate focused: to whom are you making your point? I really don't think batman jones, FB, Deckard or whoever has ever argued that in earnest, yet within the context of the debate, they seem to be accountable for something they never said. And agreeing with a point made by an organization like moveon does not mean they agree intellectually with every point made by that organization. The point is, putting words in their mouths should be unneceesary if you can argue their acutal points with them. What worries me is the amount of noise created in the quest demonize politically-different Americans. It is just static in the way of real respectful debate. Basso's thread about "would you rather the troops stay in Iraq or have Bush lose..." - now, i really do like Basso and i dont mean to pick on him (I cite it because think he knows i do it with respect...) threads like this and that one are, to me, an attempt to demean and "prove" the moral inferiority of politically-different people. To me, that is a tempting but ultimately fruitless endeavor, and i believe, a sign of weak philosophy (ex - my philosophy does not grade favorably so I will focus on shredding yours, rather than fortifying my own). It happens all the time in more subtle ways on this board, but these types of threads are really transparent.
Dumb joke. You made a Hitler reference between FB's 'marginalized fringe' comment and my post. I guess it was so funny you forgot to laugh....
The thread is 'Is Tony Blair a war criminal?' How does that "demonize" anyone? As I pointed out earlier, many of the same people who are declaring Bush is a war criminal are also equating Bush to Hitler. However, the real question that should be transparent to you is 'why is Bush held to a different standard than Clinton or Blair?' Or maybe its the hypothesis that Bush IS held to a different standard than Clinton or Blair because of some people's emotional extreme dislike for Bush. What distracts the most from 'real debate' is everyone crying "I'm a victim stop demonizing me" instead of examining the question at hand.
During the presidential campaign they invited members of the public to submit ads about Bush, the winners would be broadcast on TV. More than 1,000 submissions came in. Two ads were submitted that made a comparison between Bush and Hitler. Both were voted down by their members and the public, who reviewed the ads. Later they apologized that the ads had even gotten to point where they could be voted on. So MoveOn never compared Bush to Hitler. MoveOn membership rejected the ads through their votes and MoveOn explicitly denounced the content of the ads. In wingnuttia it's an article of faith that MoveOn compared Bush to Hitler. In the real world, Not so much.
