ok, this thread is for the people who argue about tmac being a point-foward. i'm tired of seeing good threads turning into this debate. mods if you like to delete this thread go ahead. i just wish i can go into a thread, and see what the main topic was about. not some useless thing. and of couse heres my point of view. i think labeling point-forward is useless and stupid. if your going to call swingman point-forward might as well make names for other players too. why not point center, for centers that can pass, (brad miller, yao), tall point guards (livingston or magic), or point guards that can rebound. ( stevie francis, boby sura) point-forward jsut means a swingman thats a playmaker. i think... or takes care of the ball, most of the time. does it realy matter? imo, jvg restricted everyone so much, luther, battier, stay in 3 point line. yao try to get position. that tracy saw he has to do what he had to do, and thats why he became so-called point-forward last season. please, stop this stupid madness, and just argue all you want here. heck i even, put a poll up.
No question he was a playmaker. He possesses quick passes, excellent vision, height which enables him to see the floor, and draws double teams with ease. But Adelman has made it clear his days as facilitator are over. He will be utilized in a new way. I am certain its for the best.
if your being sarcastic sorry for being an idiot, but if you read above, i just wanted to go to a thread and read what the main topic was. so i just want to let tracyyao01, or whatever his name is, instead of changing the topics on every thread, just to argue here. thats all.
from Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_forward TMAC is a point forward when Alston and Head are playing around the 3-point line.
If this thread were to be compared to Rocket greats of the past, it would be comparable to Richard Anderson and Kennard Winchester.
Tracy does not fit into any player prototype, not even a swingman. He can assume Point, Off and both Forward positions when the circumstance deems it, but does not necessarily function as one. For example, Tracy can be described as a point with excellent slashing ability with the height and strength of a Forward, or a lean Forward with the speed and ball-handling of a guard.
Its this simple, if you think Lebron is a pointforward then so is Tmac, if you think a PointForward should play like the originators of the position then hes not.
Agreed. God, that idiot tmacyao01 is starting so much of these "is tmac a point forward?" and getting owned everytime. It's so annoying.
What the hell is a point forward. He is a SWINGMAN. Swings from small forward to shooting guard. When was the last time oyu saw Tracy play point guard?
When I think point forward in today's game, the most obvious name of course is Kevin Garnett. Also worthy of mention is Josh McRoberts, more for the almost absurd disparity between his facing- and back-to-the-basket games. I guess the distinguishing characteristic of a power forward for me is someone with the body of a power forward (not SF since that basically makes them a wingman like Maggette or Deng) who is just as adept at driving, distributing, and overall ballhandling ability as he is at the traditional PF skills like posting up, blocking, and rebounding. They don't necessarily have to suck at posting up the way McRoberts does; but they should be able to put the ball on the ground more often than not while being able to finish or distribute as they choose. To exclude Duncan we'll say that they can even take the ball up the court or create from the three-point line. I don't think Tracy matches that definition, but I could see how others could interpret it differently.
dont care what ya CALL him - just keep him at the freakin SG position! Drives me nuts seein Tmac play in a forward slot. Guy's got ongoing back issues, so youre gonna have bang down low in the paint and attack the rim- where's the sense in that. Let the guy work the perimeter, stay healthy, and drop daggers. Not to mention, Ive always been of the opinion that Tmac is a pretty good sf ,but c'mon out on the perimeter he's freakin magic! It's called 'point of differential'....is McGrady better than more sfs or more sgs... to me its a no-brainer. He's probably top 10-15 as a small forward, but in the top 3 among shooting guards.
Prototypical Point-Forward to me: Dirk. Big Man with touch and speed. By that standard T-mac definitely applies as he could run laps around Dirk. I guess my definition stresses the forward aspect of it more. Tracy likes to match up at the 2, but he is 6-10 and handles the ball: most definitely a point forward.
last season(when he was not injured) he played PG for us alot and create for all team when Alston can only watch
While it's not super important, T-Mac's ability to play point is important for some discussions. But I think the term "point-forward" is somewhat outdated; it was only useful when Scottie Quittin' was around. The concept of a point-forward was new then. Now, if someone is knowledgeable enough about basketball to know the roles of each position and DOESN'T know who that T-Mac can run an offense, they must be living in a bubble. But in a discussion with them, using the term "point-forward" brings a whole lot of meaning to the table without having to explain that McGrady is a natural small forward who can run an offense and has good passing skills.
