I think we're really hyped up about this move right now. But I'm wondering ... what might the Rockets have been to pull off if they decided to wait and trade Jackson's expiring contract closer to the trade deadline. "They" say that you can often get better deals at that point than in the off-season. Could we, perhaps, have gotten just as substantial a player at that point without giving up Donte Greene? Hollinger mentioned in his piece that Artest going to Houston is unique because he'll probably help our offense much more than our defense. Well ... if it's the offense that really needed a boost, is Artest really the best fit? He's not a knock-down perimeter shooter, and he has at times been disruptive to his team's offense. Offensively, could a Mike Miller work out better? I guess what I'm asking: is there any realistic scenario that could have topped this one?
I can't think of a trade that would boost Rocket offense. As far as I know, the most unrealistic realistic trade was Ron Artest, then Mike Miller. No one really expected Artest to join Rockets considering the other offers he was getting, so IMO, this is the best case scenario.
This trade could boost the Rockets for the future and for next season http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...76~2763~3197~2171&teams=29~29~10~10&te=&cash= Rockets Get: Darko Millicic Jarvis Crittenton Grizzlies Get: Shane Battier Luther Head i think Crittenton would be able to start for the rockets and do a good job, and I think Darko can backup Yao in the future, even though i Hate Darko.
umm just throwing it out there...this wasn't a realistic trade scenario at all. The laker/memphis trade and rockets/sac trade shouldn't even be legal imo. I won't complain since we're benefitting from this one.
Well if that really is the case and its true, then hopefully David Stern remains uninvestigated until the trade is finalized.
probably not because there are other teams out there they have larger expiring contracts than Bobby J that could be dealing around the deadline so Bobby's contract wont look as appealing to a team that is trying to unload a talent for cap relief. Also add in the teams that maybe willing to trade a top tier talent around that time will probably want a combination of cap relief and a tangible asset back. We would more than likely have to give up a major rotational player to get a top tier star like that. Also on top of that I am not a huge fan of trading a rotational player for another rotational player half way through the season it can disrupt team chemistry (the lakers case last year doesnt count Brown didnt even play and Gasol is an all-star talent you make it work) because Artest stayed in Sacramento his contract wasnt too large making it possible for Bobby J's expiring to equal most of it. We had to give up a first round pick next year, yes and most likely this year's pick in Greene as well. But its a package of cap relief and assets that a team would want. I dont see who else the rockets could have gotten around the same price tag. Most teams wouldn't want Bobby but he was a fan favorite in sacramento so it may work out for the Maloofs from a PR standpoint as well to get him back even if just for a year. Considering we got a top 25 talent in the league, probably the best two way player in the game after kobe, without having to give up anyone in our starting 5 is just playing amazing.
i dont see how its shouldnt be legal if anything the kidd deal and the gasol deal should be looked into a lot closer because both deals involved signing players who werent even playing (aaron mckie and van horn) and then traded. these players never showed up to either team facilities or anything. something there wasnt right. At least the rockets trade is not 'final' because Greene cannot be traded until 30 days after signing his contract, but from a talent standpoint yes it doesnt make sense or seem fair but in terms of the players being traded nothing is unusual about it.
Our spot up shooter is Brent Barry, and he's quite damn good. Artest brings so many things we lacked last season. - He'll bring D with a physical edge. - He'll drive to the hoop like a truck. - He'll play all out every second like Battier. - He averages 20 pts/game plus 2 steals. - He will scare the crap out of some players. - He will guard the top player on the other team allowing T- Mac to coast and focus on offense. ALL THIS FOR NOT ONE IMPACT ROSTER PLAYER!!! How can you not be happy! i don't if you saw him play in Sac when Adelman was the coach, but this guy is a beast, he's had to carry the offense the last few years so he's kinda not focused on D, but now he can, and when he does that, nobody is as good as this guy.
To get a player of the quality of Ron Artest for what we had to give up would be one of those unrealistic scenarios some people were proposing earlier in the offseason and last season. I don't think there is a move the Rockets could have done better than this one.
No, nothing could have topped this one. Just look at it this way: A month or so ago, most of us didn't even know Donte Greene. We only got Greene because Morey the magician somehow turned one pick into two. So we basically got Artest for Bobby Jackson and turning a late first-rounder into an early second-rounder (the one from Memphis). Your question is like you just won 2 mio. dollars in the lottery and you are wondering if you could have won 3...
I wanted 10 million dollars I wanted to trade Bobby Jackson, Donte Greene and the 1st round pick for Kobe Bryant
Sure, you could have traded for Lebron. Then again, that wouldnt' be realistic. IMO, this is the best case scenario on paper. Basketball wise he is the ideal fit for this team. Chemistry/offcourt I don't know, but for sure RonRon can ball with the best. I sure hope he can keep his act together.
the key to that is the word realistic. obviously. for the salary slot, the fact that he's an expiring, and the toughness and versatility he adds, i think there is no other realistic option. who would have been better for ~8M? nobody. i would also much rather the team has an offseason and training camp to gel rather than picking someone up at the deadline. i think ron will be good for the team. he + dorsey will be our enforcers, one on the perimeter, and one in the paint. i think it worked out perfectly. as long as they win!
