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Is this guy kidding or not? (VY article)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by mateo, Aug 31, 2006.

  1. mateo

    mateo Member

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    I cant figure out if this is a serious article or not.....you think the end is a punchline to a joke, or just a way to save face if he's wrong? I think he's kidding.

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    Vince Young: Great college QB, lousy pro prospect
    Aug. 29, 2006
    By Gregg Doyel



    Vince Young won't make it as an NFL quarterback -- at least, not as a star NFL quarterback. And in time that is how he will be judged.

    Was Young worth the No. 3 overall pick of the 2006 draft? Was he a star quarterback?

    And the answer will be: of course not.

    Unless it's a weak year for prospects, the No. 3 overall pick in any NFL Draft should end up somewhere between the Pro Bowl and the Hall of Fame. If this was a weak year, so be it. Time will tell on the 2006 draft class, just as it will tell on Vince Young. And what it tells on Young, and on the team that picked him, won't be nice.

    The Titans got suckered. Suckered by Young's incredible body and athletic ability and highlight reel at Texas. They got suckered so badly, they looked past Young's painfully obvious deficiency: He can't throw the ball downfield.

    This being the Titans, you can't be surprised. This is the same team that got suckered by the body, athletic ability and highlight reel of West Virginia cornerback "Pacman" Jones. Despite his obvious character issues, the Titans took Jones with the No. 6 overall pick in the 2005 draft. Jones has been a good player, but he's not going to last in the NFL. A bad character is a bad character, as Jones has consistently shown after 15 months with the Titans.

    Hey, it's not Jones' fault. He is what he is. You don't blame the horse for pooping in the kitchen. You blame the idiot who took the horse inside the house.

    So it is with Vince Young. It's not his fault he went No. 3 overall in the 2006 draft. Blame the Titans, but don't blame Young when his career falls far short of his draft placement. Young has worked hard and stayed out of trouble, and will continue to do so. He's a high-character leader but not, sad to say, a high-caliber NFL quarterback.

    Don't tell me about the 2006 Rose Bowl. Don't tell me what Young did to Southern California. I watched him roll up 467 yards of offense against the Trojans, but what does that have to do with the NFL? If college football had anything to do with the NFL, 1996 Heisman winner and national champion Danny Wuerffel of Florida would be 30,000 yards into his Hall of Fame career instead of doing ... whatever it is he's doing.

    Young did to Southern Cal what he did to everyone in college. He ran past slower defenders, ran over smaller defenders and, when he had to, he threw the ball. But he didn't throw the ball like an NFL quarterback. He threw the ball short -- here or there.

    Benefited by his supernatural running ability, Young had an open field and gifted receivers working one-on-one against a defense that couldn't afford to give Young's arm as much attention as it gave his legs. Sometimes his receivers took those short passes and turned them into big gains. That's how he threw for 267 yards while running for 200.

    What's strange, and what gives me pause, is that the Titans have one of the best offensive minds in football in coordinator Norm Chow. He's the reason BYU was the most explosive team in college football for years. He's the reason North Carolina State was once so promising. He's not the reason USC became the new Miami, but he's on the short list. Chow is for real. He knows offense like "Pacman" Jones knows trouble.

    And Chow helped draft Young? That troubles me. Then again ...

    Multiple reports have declared that Chow and Titans coach Jeff Fisher preferred USC's Matt Leinart over Young. The guy who wanted Young, Titans GM Floyd Reese, is the same knucklehead who picked Jones in 2005.

    So I feel better.

    Chow and Fisher probably feel better, too, now that they've acquired veteran mediocrity in Collins. Reports out of Nashville say the Collins signing was a reaction to starter Billy Volek's general inexperience and specific so-so exhibition showings. The Associated Press story went so far as to note that, "The only quarterback not affected by (Collins') signing is Young."

    Right.

    Look, the Titans signed Collins for a number of reasons. Volek is one. Young is another. Young has been the Titans' backup, but by now Fisher and Chow realize Young can't play if Volek gets hurt. If Collins doesn't beat out Volek, he will be the new backup, regardless of what the depth chart says. Now do you see how this affects Vince Young?

    This sort of thing happens in all sports. Great college players from great programs are routinely unable to make the adjustment to professional ball. Record-setting slugger Jeff Ledbetter of Florida State couldn't hit with a wooden bat. National Player of the Year Ed O'Bannon of UCLA wasn't skilled enough for the NBA. And now comes Vince Young of Texas, who can't throw the ball downfield well enough to star in the NFL.

    Argue this all you want, but I haven't felt this strongly about a quarterback since 1998, when the top two choices in the draft were Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf.

    I liked Leaf.
     
  2. SwoLy-D

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    Nice last line. Tells you EVERYTHING.
     
  3. SamFisher

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    I couldn't figure it out either; then I decided that it was obviously the work of a complete attention w**** looking to generate buzz no matter if he's kidding or not and put it out of mind until now so as to spite him, and will continue to do so after I hit "submit reply"
     
  4. updawg

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    another perspective...
    But watching Young in minicamps, the off-season program and finally training camp persuaded the Titans to speed up the process.

    "My gut feeling is he will come along quicker than Steve, primarily because of his background," Titans general manager Floyd Reese said. "But you still want him to come along, earn his stripes and, as soon as we think he's ready, stick him in there.

    Dallas morning news
     
  5. robbie380

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    he could have simplied the article and given me back the time it took to read it by saying "i think vince young sucks as a NFL QB and i liked ryan leaf over peyton manning." by gregg doyle
     
  6. rodrick_98

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    good vy artivle in the dmn today
    williams has looked good, but does this make anyones peepee hurt?

    *edit* didn't see updawgs post

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/083106dnspogosselin.3240616.html
     
  7. Mr. Brightside

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    How can we improve VY test scores? No child left behind!
     
  8. The Real Shady

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    I liked the article just because of this line... You don't blame the horse for pooping in the kitchen. You blame the idiot who took the horse inside the house.
     
  9. macalu

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    it's just another opinion. truth is, he could be right. just like Bush or Mario could suck too. we as fans just choose to undermine anything that doesn't support our guy.

    and as for the Ryan Leaf comment, really, who here actually thought on draft day that he would turn out like he did? anyone? hello? gotta love hindsight.

    btw, i also believe the Leaf comment was to point out that he was wrong about Leaf and is hoping he's wrong about VY. :confused:
     
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  10. jgreen91

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    I agree with the article. I don't think VY will be a great NFL QB.
     
  11. macalu

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    *lynch mob gathering*
     
  12. Dream34

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    Vince Young will be a future NFL Superstar. Book it!!! :cool:
     
  13. Major Malcontent

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    eh...at this point VY could be anything from the second coming of Fran Tarkington to a career backup who is never effective in the NFL.

    I would hope for the former if he wasn't in the Texans division, but unless he gets a team change I would just as soon he never pan out.
     
  14. giddyup

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    Randall Cunningham with better leadership skills. They say that Vince already has the veterans' attention.
     
  15. SamFisher

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    the latest Trader Jorge/bigtexxx acolyte in our midst.
     
  16. rrj_gamz

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    Yet another VY bashing thread...C'mon guys...

    VY will not start this year, but maybe the next...This is similar to what the Oilers/Titans did with Steve McNair and what the Bengals did with Palmer, which both turned out great...

    New system, rookie learning curve, that's it...As for Matt (babydaddy), he's running the same system practically in college, so he will definitely be better from day one,however, NFL defenses are smarter and faster so he will have a learning curve as well...
     
  17. Burzmali

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    What makes you say that?

    Just because he thinks we're going to trade Clemens to the Red Sox when it isn't possible doesn't make him a really smart, cool, conservative-minded BAMF.
     
  18. mateo

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    Vince bashing thread? I was asking about an author's motive.
     
  19. DonnyMost

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    If I wouldn't get banned for it, I'd post that "Ah Jeez.. not this sh*t again" pic here.

    :(
     

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