In the Sportsline.com rumor mill, the Clippers are looking to trade Odom before the all-star break. The Clippers already have Maggette and D.Miles as their SF, and are winning consistently without Odom. Odom is going to be a FA in 2003, and their owner most likely will not re-sign Elton Brand and Odom that same year. Odom has also been caught taking drugs, and hasn't fit well in LA. Is there a way we can snag Odom before the all-star break? LA already has a good bench and they don't want any high salary players. Odom is making 2.8 million this year. Also would it be possible to re-sign both Francis and Odom in '03, with our salary cap? any ideas? I was thinking.... Moochie Norris/Kenny Thomas + our #1 draft pick and Toronto's #1. for Lamar Odom + 2nd round pick. Is this better for LA or better for Houston. This will benefit LA because they need a back up PG and PF, for the playoffs. They can draft for more youth in this upcoming draft with the two picks plus theirs. I think this will benefit Houston because they'll have 4 young star players in Francis, Mobley, Griffin and Odom. All they would need is time to get to know how each other, then they could compete for the title the next 5 years.
They might make playoffs this year. I doubt they'd want to change to much, but if they really do....Willis might come in handy without the investment longterm.
It's an interesting trade idea. I'm worried about Odom's off the court issues though. The fact that the next suspension for drugs would be a big one (I think . . . ) is what really bothers me. Talent-wise, he'd be a great pickup for us, but I also wonder if we could do better with our current #1? I don't know . . . Although, if Dunleavy comes out, I'd rather have him. . .
i don't believe so. i believe the suspension for mar1juana violation is the same regardless of the number of infractions. part of the most recent cba. i'll try to look it up, though....
Rudy will have no idea how to use his talents. We need a SF that can defend, can drive, and can hit 3ptrs. Odom is too multitalented for Rudy's system. He will be a Scotty Pippen, just frustrated and wanting a trade after getting the huge extention required for the deal.
no. i think he's saying that we *as a team* need that, but that rudy has historically utilized his small forwards as nothing more than spot up shooters...
He can do all of those, plus he can be a creative playmaker and score inside - both of which Rudy will find a way to surpress, and hence cause Odom's frustration.
Yeah that must've been Scottie's problem here. It was all Rudy. Pippen's attitude didn't enter into it. Pippen in Portland hasn't done any complaining about his fellow players and his coach, he has taken responsiblity for any of the teams troubles the way a leader should. Nice job Pippen, it's ashame that Rudy couldn't use him properly.
Lamar is a career 31% 3 point shooter(an ugly 19% this season), so no he can't hit the three, however he is a decent defender and can rebound. I'm still not sure I'd want to trade KT and others for him though.
why wouldn't you want to? kt is the odd man out with our PFs and mooch is an overpaid globetrotter wannabe (see my sig.). and i don't care about lamar being a 31% 3 point shooter. he is a slasher, creator, penetrator, etc. but most importantly, he is UNSELFISH. he can - and will - score. but he is just as happy dropping dimes for layups... he can - and does - play point forward. he can - and does - play the 1, 2, 3, and on rare occasions 4 spot.
Pretty sad that a good portion of the board has come to the conclusion that Rudy will never know how to use a SF as anything more than a 3 point shooter...:-(
I hope people know that my above post was entirely sarcastic, and in no way a slam of Rudy, but one of Pippen.
it really is. but damnit, i can't remember the last time rudy had a small forward that did anything other than that. maybe that's because that's all he has ever had them do....
Yeah it really sucks too, we still try to sign/trade/draft for SF's though that really aren't that good at 3 point shooting, compared to their other talents. I mean Rice sucked from 3 point range this year, and Tmo, well Tmo's a small PF as far as I'm concerned. You'd think that management would realize that they do the same thing with their SF's no matter who they are, so they should just sign Matt Bullard Jr. and get it over with...
Isn't driving, hitting the three, and playing defense the traditional role of the 3? Some can run a point forward system if they have the right three, but for the most part that's what most of the coaches have their 3's do. In truth we haven't had too many 3's that had the ability to post up. Or how many 3's have we had that could do more with it than Hakeem when we was here?
Do we get an extra basketball with that trade, because we would need one. Give me someone that does the dirty work. I'm happy with Torres and/or Morris.
Interesting idea. Actually, I think that trade could get done without Toronto's #1. The Rocks would get their first impact SF since, what, Rodney McCray?! And remember, Mobley is a URI alum (in fact, I think Mobley was Odom's host at URI during recruiting, I think they are fairly close as well), and should act as 'big brother' (OK, 'older' brother since Odom's got 6" on him ) to Odom and keep him out of trouble. The Clips would acquire a solid combo F (they could use another physical player), solid yet over-paid backup PG, and a very nice pick. But with the Rocks not being terribly deep up front, I don't know if they would pull the trigger or even consider such a trade. In the offseason perhaps, but the Clips want to deal now so I don't know.
