Pardon me for breaking my own rule about knee-jerk threads centered around one game. But I want this out there: Can we all agree now that Tracy is the main reason the Rockets don't run Adelman's offense? What happened when he went out last season? What happened tonight against the Spurs? Someone please tell me why I'm wrong. I dare you. Not one time this year have you seen that kind of ball movement (and player movement) from the opening tip off to the final buzzer. Tracy is set in his ways and won't adjust to the system. He's stuck on isolation plays, holding on to the ball until the double-team comes, creating his own shot instead of letting someone else set him up, etc. Understand that I know Luther's out-of-this-world performance was the key to winning tonight. I know the Spurs weren't their normal selves. I know every game (starting tomorrow) won't be like this one. I also know good and well the Rockets are not a better team without Tracy. I'm not a "hater" but some of you will think that anyway. I don't have any "sacred cow" players. I root for the team and the red jersey and want any player on the roster to succeed while he's here. Discuss, especially those of you who disagree. Blast me.
obviously, we can't have that kind of offense if mcgrady was on the floor. Defensively and offensively, tmac has no place under adelman's system.
I completely agree. I did a detailed analysis last season when McGrady was out for a ton of games early in the season, and the Rockets scored a considerable amount more per game than with him. T-Mac is a great player, but he doesn't really fit into the Adelman system. If there is anyway we could deal him for a dead eye shooter with some athleticism we should jump all over it.
We can say argue that we're also better without Artest and Yao by tonights game. Artest made the game close by taking bad shots. Yao didn't play well, had 1 rebound? RA is just good with roleplayers, in fact too good. But he sucks with star players. This is why I think we need another coach who can actually coach and take advantage of star players. Our big 3s didn't win the game today, we're not better without McGrady. Tonight goes to RA and the bench and role players.
What about that 22 game winning streaks last season. We had beautiful ball movement that that is why we won all those games with yao Out, I think we went like 22-10 last season without Yao. No matter how you look at it, this is still just knee jerk reaction thread
Yao is not doing a good job of being a passing shooting big either. It is both Yao's and T-Mac's fault.
A_3PO, while I do not consider you a hater in any way, I don't think you are correct on this. I agree that T-Mac slows us down considerably, and today's offense and defense was a thing of beauty, but T-Mac isn't the only reason we don't run an Adelman offense. Yao Ming had 12 points today. Count them. 12. Ron Artest had 16, which isn't bad, but on 4/15 shooting. Today, we played Adelman offense, but we left Yao behind. If the rest of the team wasn't white hot, we would have gone right back to dumping it into Yao, which is not Adelman offense. If McGrady was playing, we would have iso'ed him, and then Yao, and then Artest. It's not to say we can't still have an efficient offense, but none of our big 3 play "Adelman offense". Do you not agree?
It would be nice if we could at least wait a couple more games before jumping to conclusion. Reminds me of last year when McGrady went out early. We won 3 games in a role without McGrady and just Yao. We played the knicks twice and some other team in that 3 game win streak. Bottomline is, fans don't learn, fans have no patience. Can't blame that since we all want to win. I don't think anyone should be taking any of these knee jerk reaction threads seriously until we actually see a drastic change in the next few games.
The team hasn't played well with T-Mac because he is hurt. He has no explosivness. He can't get around screens quick enough and move without the ball with any purpose. Yesterday everyone was bashing Luther Head, then he plays a good game and now, he should be in the rotation and T-Mac is our problem. I'm sick of you tools. How do you get to keep your damn membership here. Should trade you muppets to the Mavericks fan forums.
I forgot to add that the fans thought we were better without McGrady with that 3 game win streak. Now not to sound negative, but I don't think the Spurs were expecting Luther, and as a result slacked off in their scouting efforts. We won because of Luther, but we also won because the Spurs had no idea about Luther.
This is just my humble opinion, but for Houston the system is about Yao. Either he makes his shots inside or he makes the correct pass out without turning the ball over. If people hit shots, it looks great. If they don't, it looks bad. Minus the dry spell at the end of the 4th, they were making. Everything looks good like that. There was just passing inside, to outside, around to find the open guy. That's not a special system. That's just normal, find the open guy basketball, AND that guy has to make the shot. When Yao is out, they have to try to run the "system" more. No one commands a double team, so you need more cuts, picks, etc. Also, the defense really provided a decent number of opportunity baskets. And as the OP said, Luther had a great game. I guess all in all, I just don't buy this "system" is the problem stuff. People make baskets, everything looks good.
It isn't just one person. All 3 stars haven't played within the offense much this year. The problem is they look to dominate, as in the ball. either Ron dribbles around the perimeter before jacking up a sideways jumper, Tracy fakes all over and shoots a long jumper, or Yao takes too long to make a move and often doesn't make a move at all because the D caught up to him. Taking forever to enter the ball to Yao adds to this problem. The problem is taking too long to do anything and that goes for ALL of them. Tonight they all made quick decisions, they got the ball, drove, passed or shot. They were decisive. Yao made his move or passed to the open guy. At the end, they started to slow down the passing and the guards pretty much just dribbled around ]the 3 point line and ended up jacking long shots, that's when they went back to playing bad basketball and missed lpretty much everything in the final minutes.
Previous game was the perfect sample. 22 game wining streak was the perfect sample You are right.... but just about the knee-jerk part.
