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Is The NBA actually commiting extortion by fining coaches who speak out?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by ILoveTheRockets, Mar 5, 2009.

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  1. ILoveTheRockets

    ILoveTheRockets Member

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    So, lemme get this straight.

    A coach is fined for speaking out against the Refs who make " CLEAR "" VERY CLEAR" bad calls.Just because the NBA wants to hold a respectable image to the public?!?!

    I might be wrong, but isn't that the same exact thing as extortion, and is a felony in the Unite States of America... right?
     
    #1 ILoveTheRockets, Mar 5, 2009
  2. ILoveTheRockets

    ILoveTheRockets Member

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    so sorry was meaning to post this in the NBA forum.
     
    #2 ILoveTheRockets, Mar 5, 2009
  3. Aznoob

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    In Before the move. :)
     
    #3 Aznoob, Mar 5, 2009
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I suspect there are guidelines and rules to follow and consequences to expect in the standard coach's contract.
     
    #4 bobrek, Mar 5, 2009
  5. ILoveTheRockets

    ILoveTheRockets Member

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    Contracts are no exempt from the law of government though. Just because it is in a contract doesn't make it legal. We ARE in the United States of America after all.

    Hired Killers get contracts... they still get jail time when caught.
     
    #5 ILoveTheRockets, Mar 5, 2009
  6. tinywang

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    yea, if the contract doesn't follow the law, i believe that makes the contract void.
     
    #6 tinywang, Mar 5, 2009
  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So you are comparing a hired killer's "contract" to that of an NBA coach? It is not extortion. There is a "code of conduct" that players and coaches are expected to follow. They know the consequences.

    Is requiring players to wear a sport coat on the bench if they are not playing extortion?
     
    #7 bobrek, Mar 5, 2009
  8. ILoveTheRockets

    ILoveTheRockets Member

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    So, the NBA has every right to intimidate their employees from speaking out on the league and companies? And top of that, "fine" them a fee from publicly speaking out?

    I don't see how this doesn't classify as a form of extortion.
     
    #8 ILoveTheRockets, Mar 5, 2009
  9. gwatson86

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    If you were to go to the media and publicly denounce employees of the company that you work for, you can expect roughly the same result in the form of a lawsuit.
     
    #9 gwatson86, Mar 5, 2009
  10. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Every NBA player and coach knows the consequences of speaking out. They are NOT forced to coach or play in the NBA. If they don't like the rule, don't participate in the NBA.
     
    #10 bobrek, Mar 5, 2009
  11. ILoveTheRockets

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    I dunno about ya'll, but if the company I worked for had employees costing myself and others. contracts, money, and endorsements. Why wouldn't I make it known, of course I would take it up with my employers first and foremost. But if they don't listen and do little to correct it, then I have every right to make it publicly known.

    Lets be frank here, the NBA isn't some mom and pop store needing every little bit business they can get because they could end up broke the very next year if things go wrong. This is a Mutli Billion dollar Empire that threatens it's employees to NOT speak publicly when things HURT their team.

    Loses hurt teams, and if another employee that has NOTHING to do with the actual players or coaches, help contribute to the loss because they are not very good at their job. It should be made known so people can be accountable for their actions. When you start fining coaches, not chump change, but considerable amounts of money. Just so you can keep a respectable image... that is nothing more than extortion plain and simple.

    I don't see how this isn't a bigger issue than it is. I would expect this from the CBA, but not the NBA.
     
    #11 ILoveTheRockets, Mar 5, 2009
  12. blink

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    even if the employee spoke out about legitimate bad practices of the company that affects its consumers/other employees?
     
    #12 blink, Mar 5, 2009
  13. rocketsjudoka

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    Extortion? Yes but as Bobrek noted you are there by choice and under contract. Noone is forcing coaches to coach for the NBA, players or even owners to own an NBA team. Abiding the league rules is the price of agreeing to be involved in the league.

    The one area where I could see an argument against the league is the Whistleblower law but not knowing labor law that well I'm not sure that applies to a coach complaining about refereeing. My guess is it doesn't.
     
    #13 rocketsjudoka, Mar 5, 2009
  14. rocketsjudoka

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    If the NBA wants to run itself into the ground it is free to do so. If the NBA came out tomorrow and said its strategy is to fix games I suspect that would be a terrible business move but not illegal.
     
    #14 rocketsjudoka, Mar 5, 2009
  15. ILoveTheRockets

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    actually. It would be illegal since NBA is a legit betting source in Vegas.
     
    #15 ILoveTheRockets, Mar 5, 2009
  16. JuanValdez

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    No.

    Would you consider a non-disclosure agreement to be extortion? Like the guy that wanted to rat out tobacco companies but would be sued for millions if he did because of the contract he signed.

    Besides, complaining coaches don't tell us anything we can't see for ourselves.
     
    #16 JuanValdez, Mar 5, 2009
  17. rocketsjudoka

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    Although if they publicly said they were fixing games I think that would change.
     
    #17 rocketsjudoka, Mar 5, 2009
  18. ILoveTheRockets

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    The NBA needs coaches and Players more than coaches and players need the NBA.

    NBA needs to get its priorities right and take care of the people who make the league strive.
     
    #18 ILoveTheRockets, Mar 5, 2009
  19. trueroxfan

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    extortion? no, just like the sports coat thing, they have a contract, they're basically owned by the nba, it's like a gag order as long as they aren't being forced to keep their mouths shut about illegal activity i think it is perfectly legal, even though it is lame as hell
     
    #19 trueroxfan, Mar 5, 2009
  20. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I think that certain comments made by coaches to defend players should result in fines. Coaches should go after refs by name either.

    Chu-Chu. riding the moving thread.
     
    #20 REEKO_HTOWN, Mar 5, 2009
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