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is Steve really shooting worse than last year?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Charvo, Mar 16, 2004.

  1. Charvo

    Charvo Member

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    Here are some statistics that will demonstrate that he's the same low percentage shooter that he was last year, but the big difference is that he's having to take way more jumpshots this year due to the change of the offense to a slowdown half-court inside-out offense.

    http://82games.com/0304HOU.HTM

    http://82games.com/0203HOU.HTM

    Steve is shooting an adjusted 39% for jumpers this year.

    He shot an adjusted 40% for jumpers last year.

    Last year, 62% of his shots were jumpers. This year 73% of his shots are jumpers. That's a huge difference. The fact is Steve is not a good shooter. It's not the system.

    Mobley and especially JJ have had their jumpshot percentages go up. They are also taking more jumpers relative to the total number of shots. 86% of JJ's shots are jumpers. That's a lot. The fact is Yao creates a whole ton of great opportunities for the perimeter players, but it's on the perimeter players to make their shots. JJ is the biggest beneficiary. Cuttino is doing a little better. However, Steve has actually stayed basically the same.
     
  2. birat

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    I don't have any problem if he misses a good shot..

    I do have with his CARELESSNESS.
     
  3. SmeggySmeg

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    great stats Charvo
     
  4. Summer Song Giver

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    I've said before Steve suffers in a catch and shoot roll, he needs the ball to comfortably get off his shot.
     
  5. Charvo

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    It surprised me at first. I was expecting his jumpshot to be much better last year. However, he was getting easy buckets last year without Yao in the middle. The easy buckets he used to get in transition have decreased, and he's also having a tough time driving into the paint when defenses are set in the half-court. It adds up to a bad shooting percentage.
     
  6. Charvo

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    That means he cannot score effectively when Yao is in the low post with the ball.
     
  7. SmeggySmeg

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    that's right, he has no idea how to set himself up for a score without the ball... everything he does is off the dribble.. Jax, Mobes and MoT have worked out if the get in the right place and open Yao will find them.....
     
  8. Beck

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    Yes, we have talked about this for months...

    Steve's gone in the offseason. No way JVG goes through another year with this mis-matched team.
     
  9. 3-a-charm

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    I have said this many times, but posters and sports writers keep writing that Francis is a "great" shooter. This is the same as "great" playmaker, and "great" point guard. All this is "hype" of course. The truth is on the court. Francis is a "great" leaper-athlete. We need a "gunner" from the outside, badly. Mobley is so streaky and Pike never materialized. Actually Ming and JJ may be our most consistent shooters.
     
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    Steve cant make open shots might be the Achilles'heel.he has his own rhythm and has to find it by dribbling the ball all time!Both Rockets and him are suffering under the inside-out system.I increasingly believe in the point of view that u've said before!
     
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    look at his carear three pt shooting
     
  12. topfive

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    Two other Steve-stats that are interesting:

    A full 20% of his shots come with 4 or fewer seconds left on the 24-second clock. No doubt most of these are not high-percentage shots. That's gotta bring his overall percentage down a bit.

    Also, Steve is actually on pace to *miss* fewer shots this year than last. With the slow pace of a JVG-style game, plus the emergence of Yao, Steve's attempts are down.

    I'm not surprised that he's struggled this year, as he's had to substantially change his game for probably the first time in his life. It's frustrating because it seems that other less-talented players would have gotten the idea by now, but Steve had a VERY long way to go. I just hope he gets it down before the playoffs. I can live with a few missed shots, but the dumb turnovers are killing us.
     
  13. Sane

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    Why isn't this is a bigger deal?


    To me, this means that, if he doesn't improve his mid-range game this summer, he SHOULD be gone for the good of the team.
     
  14. JuanValdez

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    This seems to me like evidence that it is the system. We know (even without these statistics) that Francis' strongest game is attacking the basket and that he is less solid shooting jump shots. A system built to get the best out of Francis would have him shooting more on drives and less on jumpers. That Van Gundy has him shooting more jumpers is why his percentage is down.
     
  15. Yetti

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    Both see the big picture very clearly! I wonder of JVG does?
     
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    getting layups and dunks in transition and fast breaks are always easy scores and help players overall FG%. We have cut down on both and its too bad SF3 is not running the breaks like he used too.

    almost all players needs layups and dunks to help their overall FG% .. its very tough to get a clean shot off in the NBA without someone in your face. Thats a credit to the speed and size of NBA players in general.

    J
     
  17. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Steve has shot 35% for his career from 3 point range which is about average.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    No, I'd rather believe some stats that tell me what percentages of his shots were jumpshots. I'm sure that's very accurate.
     
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    According to the stat, Yao is not as good a jump shooter as you guys think.
     
  20. Easy

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    Where did you get this stat? Just curious. I've never heard of anyone keeping record of how many shots a player shoots with 4 or fewer seconds.
     

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