I don't know what to say about that,...but it's the right thing to do...I mean seriously awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_Z5KZ42GXw BTW, when are the kindergarden kids going to get the much needed sex education? Anyone know when this starts? I'm sure David is interested about this...
[rquoter] This video is not in support of any political party as they are all bought and paid for by International banks, corporate interests and the Global elite [/rquoter] You know, one of the things I've noticed reading through a whole bunch of older documentation is that 30-50 years ago these same people were all saying the International Jewish Banks, Jewish Corporate Interests and the Jewish Global Elite. I am not entirely sure whether the people who spout these theories now-a-days: ...know the history of their school of thought and think they are more enlightened conspiracy nuts. ...whether they still believe it but just leave it off because they know it would kill their support or ...they are oblivious to the fact that they are essentially spouting modified anti-Semitic paranoia. All-in-all, it is an interesting subject to me. It raises all sorts of interesting questions.
I got through the first "lie" which was Obama saying that he would end the Iraq war and "changed" by saying he would make the war against Al Qaeda a top priority. ROXRAN, you're either willfully ignorant or simply the most gullible person on the planet who doesn't actual fact-check anything.
Roxran, I watched all of it. Although there were some points which can be, from a superficial/biased perspective, be considered hypocritical such as saying one would not increase the payroll tax and then the payroll tax is increased during his term... What you fail to report about these soundbites is what they omit and how much the omission skews the message for the video's agenda: at the 6:20 mark, Obama refers to no payroll tax for Americans making less than $250k/yr and later shows how he implements it during his term... in reality he levies it only on those making more than $250k/. Another random snippet is at the 5:00 min mark. The video claims Obama is for teaching sex education in kindergarten, 'it's the right thing to do'. Here's the complete sentence: “It’s the right thing to do...to provide age-appropriate sex education, science-based sex education in schools.” You see what you're doing here? Like some other members within this section of the BBS, you post incredibly one-sided and devious articles. Either you maybe as naive as Major pointed or you are deliberately spouting information which deep down you know is wrong. Still, you've lost much credibility because of this. Obama is a politician who may lie now and then as part of his job. He has his faults, of course. I'm not completely supportive of him but he was the best option of the two I was given. You could've mentioned the "I do not accept money from Oil companies" statement and commented how no politician since 1907's Tillman's Act can do so anyway; despite this, through loopholes he received "$213,000 in contributions from individuals who work for, or whose spouses work for, companies in the oil and gas industry" [FactCheck.org]. This was less than Hillary's $306,000 against which the above statement was prepared by his campaign (to battle for the Dem's primary). The key here is context and knowledge of the situation.
Good job, but you FAIL on the collective theory of assumption...Did I ask you to watch it all? No...Did I say that is my stance on total unadulterated belief? No...Did I make reference to a certain part being shown..YES...You fail to realize the point of the thread which is keyed on his ability to be a smooth talker. I certainly have understood which sound bites had merit or not. I am not being a supporter of all the points made, but my examination is on one area only as indicated and this part is whether his transition from the crowd laughing along to the idea of sex education for kindergarteners to this issue being "the right thing to do" being the most awesome display of smooth made by a President....I think so. I'm impressed. I'm a man. I don't mean anything nefarious. Now, the question remains what is age appropiate for kindergarteners and when is this happening? Now give me an answer sans collective theory of assumption being involved...
to answer your question; kindergarten is not too early to begin teaching children biological processes.
Thank you for your thoughts, and thank you for not assuming my thoughts and feelings about everything. Now that we are getting somewhere, what are your thoughts on age appropiate sex education for kindergarten kids? You stated 5 year olds should learn about biological processes. To what extent? What are the boundaries? Should there be any boundaries? I know we are on a roll, but as a side note I still am impressed at the way Obama smooths the transition of a topic being "laughable" to it being the right thing to do...and not you Rashmon, but others please don't fall into the fallacy of collective assumption syndrome (otherwise known as f.o.c.a.s). Understand I am kinda stating this in a complementary way.
That boys and girls are different, which is the reason we have separate bathrooms for the sexes. As an example.
Great, and I kinda agree, but is there any national directive on this education front? I haven't heard of any initiative yet. Some people might say why couldn't this discussion be at the family home.
No, he's not. He's great, don't get me wrong. But when he speaks "off the cuff", or whatever that phrase is, he speaks incredibly slowly, and says almost nothing in a long span of time. Why? So he can think about every little thing he says and make sure he doesn't say anything wrong. That's fine, but I don't consider that smooth. For me to consider that smooth he'd have to get in a little more content per amount of time, then I'd consider it smooth. It's too easy to do what he does, as slow as he does it.
Yeah, it has more to do with Zionism than Judaism though. Pretty big difference. Zionism somehow got lumped in the same category, probably to protect themselves (anyone who hates Zionists are anti-semites, etc.).
I think if you post something like this video - to some degree you are sharing it's conclusions unless you state up front you are not. That might be "assumptive" but it's also a logical conclusion for people to make. Sorta of like making an assumption that if an apple hit you in the head, it probably came from above.
I dont think he's smoothest talker either. Reagan and Clinton had a more natural, smoother style to them. Obama's slowness and "ughs" do get pointed out. I'd just hope Obama actually thinking before he speaks and actually putting thought into his words doesnt somehow come under fire too.
My mistake then. I apologize. Sweet Lou 4 2 already said it best or me. Your decision to use that particular video to only argue that one little snippet was poor. Despite the owner's claim that he did not endorse any one party, it featured too many of Obama's "lies" for me to believe any sincere discussion could take place using it. You may have used a longer clip like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwNV069wLGU) on just this topic instead where it's apparent that Obama was sarcastically responding that it be appropriate for full-blown sex education (i.e genitalia anatomy, contraception, rape, fetal development, etc.) to be taught to that Kindergartners. From ABC News- When Obama's campaign was asked by ABC News to explain what kind of sex education Obama considers "age appropriate" for kindergarteners... 'I do not support teaching explicit sex education to children in kindergarten. . . nobody's suggesting that kindergartners are going to be getting information about sex in the way that we think about it,' Obama said. 'If they ask a teacher 'where do babies come from,' that providing information that the fact is that it's not a stork is probably not an unhealthy thing. Although again, that's going to be determined on a case by case basis by local communities and local school boards.' IMO, there should be an option for every parent to allow whether their child can be taught sex-ed after they have sat through some trial PTA seminar on exactly what the teacher will say in class i.e "boys and girls are different sexes b.c of _ _ _ _" etc. Before the 6th grade, or upon entering middle school, all children should know exactly what happens in human reproduction sans explicit positions, stimulation, contraceptives etc.
oh yeah the bolded statement abut Obama being the greatest smooth talker President.. disagree, I say Reagan or JFK.
It appears Ottomaton has secured new employment: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3744516,00.html
Except it doesn't. It was really at its strongest in the 1920's and 1930's. It is all about 'powerful Jews on Wall Street', the Rothschilds, etc. It fact, it was the same stuff the Nazis were ranting about. Are you going to try to say Nazis did't hate Jews, just Zionism? It had absolutely nothing to do with Zionism.
Like others in this thread, based upon your previously stated political views, I believe you are being disingenuous with your stated claim of seeking objective discussion. Especially with the use of a propaganda video presenting a slanted view of the "issue" from the start. However, I will play along. Children are already taught biological processes up to and including procreation and all that it entails. You have even stated the key phrase yourself - age appropriate. You can teach very young children about "sex education" in an age appropriate way. If you have children, did you not teach them about the "birds and the bees?"
